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    Which country has the best 2nd ATG XI side?

    Here you go. Pick the country with the best 2nd ATG XI side. Couldn't make viable ones for New Zealand and Sri Lanka (and nearly India)

    South Africa

    Bruce Mitchell
    Gary Kirsten (c)
    Hashim Amla
    AB De Villiers
    Daryll Cullinan
    Aubrey Faulkner
    Jock Cameron (w)
    Mike Procter
    Garth Le Roux
    Vernon Philander
    Neil Adcock

    Notes: I picked Garth Le Roux over Vincent van der Bijl because I wanted two genuine quick bowlers, and already had similar bowlers in Philander and Procter. Plus Le Roux bats a bit. Herbie Taylor is in my first XI. Faulkner to provide the spin option. Jock Cameron ahead of Mark Boucher. Anybody know a better bat than Cullinan?

    West Indies

    Conrad Hunte
    Frank Worrell
    Clyde Walcott
    Rohan Kanhai
    Shivnarine Chanderpaul
    Clive Lloyd (c)
    Jackie Hendriks/ Deryck Murray (w)
    Andy Roberts
    Joel Garner
    Alf Valentine
    Courtney Walsh

    Notes: Very strong on both the bowling and batting fronts. Might consider having a four man pace attack with Wes Hall. Desmond Haynes and Richie Richardson were closest to miss out.

    Australia

    Matthew Hayden
    Arthur Morris
    Stan McCabe
    Neil Harvey
    Allan Border
    Steve Waugh (c)
    Ian Healy (w)
    Alan Davidson
    Ray Lindwall
    Clarrie Grimmett
    Jeff Thomson/ Fred Spofforth

    Notes: Strong batting and bowling here. Lots of support bowling options in McCabe, Border and Waugh. Clem Hill, Charles Macartney and Archie Jackson closest to make the cut. Can't pick between Thommo and Spofforth, or for that matter throw in Alderman and Gillespie.

    Pakistan

    Shoaib Mohammad
    Majid Khan
    Younis Khan (c)
    Zaheer Abbas
    Saleem Malik
    Asif Iqbal
    Moin Khan (w)
    Saqlain Mushtaq/Saeed Ajmal
    Mushtaq Ahmed
    Fazal Mahmood
    Shoaib Akhtar

    Notes: Pace trio of Fazal, Shoaib and Asif, complemented by both leg and off spin. Batting a little weak (I have Qadir and Mushtaq Mohammad in my first team, so Fazal doesn't make it there. Plus I have a middle order of Inzi, Javed and Yousuf, so Abbas doesn't make it there)

    England

    Herbert Sutcliffe
    Geoff Boycott
    Peter May
    David Gower
    Dennis Compton
    Tony Greig (c)
    Les Ames (w)
    John Snow
    Derek Underwood
    Bob Willis
    Alec Bedser

    Notes: Strong batting. Two genuine pacers and lots of variety in the attack. Underwood could be replaced by Verity/Wardle.

    India

    Vijay Merchant
    Gautam Gambhir
    VVS Laxman
    Mohammad Azharuddin
    Dilip Vengsarkar
    Gundappa Viswanath
    Farooq Engineer (w)
    Zaheer Khan
    Amar Singh
    Bishan Singh Bedi
    Bhagwat Chandrasekhar

    Notes: Not that strong in either department despite having some strong names.

    Which would you say is the strongest side. You are welcome to vote as per your own 2nd XIs as well
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    Has to be Australia, by a fair way too. I'm interested though, what would be your #1 SA XI? Oh and I thought Harvey generally batted at 3, and McCabe at 4.
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    England looks strongest to me.

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    Australia and England look the strongest of them.


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    When ESPN did their ATG thing, the shortlisted middle order players were

    Kallis
    Herbie Taylor
    Cullinan
    Nourse
    Pollock
    DeVilliers

    Cullinan probably the one I rate least...

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    A WI 2nd eleven (going by the first XI picked here at cricketweb) would look like this:

    Hunte
    Fredricks
    Kanhai
    Weekes
    Lloyd
    Worrell*
    Dujon+
    Bishop
    Roberts
    Walsh
    Gibbs

    As good as ne other teams' if u ask me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronis View Post
    Has to be Australia, by a fair way too. I'm interested though, what would be your #1 SA XI? Oh and I thought Harvey generally batted at 3, and McCabe at 4.
    My SA 1st XI is: Barry Richards | Graeme Smith (c) | Jacques Kallis | Graeme Pollock | Dudley Nourse | Herbie Taylor | John Waite (w) | Shaun Pollock | Hugh Tayfield | Dale Steyn | Allan Donald

    Yup, Harvey at 3 and McCabe at four it should be

    Slightly surprised at so much Australia love here. Apart from a world class spinner, I think the Windies team matches quite favorably!

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    I also think that the strength of a 2nd all time XI really demonstrates how strong a country's cricket history has been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    England looks strongest to me.
    this was my vote fwiw
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    1. West Indies - Solid Batting line-up with Kanhai at No.3, plus Roberts, Garner, Walsh!
    2. England - Very solid batting line-up, plus Snow and Underwood
    3. Australia - Solid batting line-up, plus Lindwall and Grimmett
    4. Rest
    Len Hutton - Jack Hobbs - Ted Dexter - Peter May - Walter Hammond - Frank Woolley - Ian Botham - Alan Knott - Hedley Verity - John Snow - Fred Trueman

    Victor Trumper - Bill Lawry - Don Bradman - Greg Chappell - Allan Border - Keith Miller - Adam Gilchrist - Alan Davidson - Shane Warne - Dennis Lillee - Glenn McGrath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slifer View Post
    A WI 2nd eleven (going by the first XI picked here at cricketweb) would look like this:

    Hunte
    Fredricks
    Kanhai
    Weekes
    Lloyd
    Worrell*
    Dujon+
    Bishop
    Roberts
    Walsh
    Gibbs

    As good as ne other teams' if u ask me
    Wes Hall over Bishop, surely?

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    1. West Indies - Solid Batting line-up with Kanhai at No.3, plus Roberts, Garner, Walsh!
    2. England - Very solid batting line-up, plus Snow and Underwood
    3. Australia - Solid batting line-up, plus Lindwall and Grimmett
    4. Rest


    Australia has Alan Davidson too! They bat deep down until number 9. But Windies batting has Worrell and Walcott, plus Kanhai, Lloyd, and Chanders as well.

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    What are we counting as the First XI - the original ATG Teams teams picked in the CW exercise? In that case, there are a few guys being picked for various 2nd XIs here (Morris, Border and Walcott are three that stand out, plus whichever of Worrell or Hunte made the original WI team) who made their First XIs and shouldn't be on these lists.
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    Australia only a solid batting lineup? Davidson such an underrated bowler too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slifer View Post
    A WI 2nd eleven (going by the first XI picked here at cricketweb) would look like this:

    Hunte
    Fredricks
    Kanhai
    Weekes
    Lloyd
    Worrell*
    Dujon+
    Bishop
    Roberts
    Walsh
    Gibbs

    As good as ne other teams' if u ask me
    Plenty to like about that line-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sean View Post
    What are we counting as the First XI - the original ATG Teams teams picked in the CW exercise? In that case, there are a few guys being picked for various 2nd XIs here (Morris, Border and Walcott are three that stand out, plus whichever of Worrell or Hunte made the original WI team) who made their First XIs and shouldn't be on these lists.
    These are just mine ones, not based on CW, sorry!

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