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    Get rid of the gully, and put him in the fifth slip position!
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    one of the few things with AB as the skipper is to underattack
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    I would have a crack at this but I honestly have nothing to compare to the cow anecdote. Absolute gold.
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    Would love to know what Goughy's XI would be.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bagapath View Post
    When Richard Hadlee starts the first over with Adam Gilchrist behind the stumps, this will be the field setting.

    Off Side:

    Viv Richards - First Slip
    Brian Lara - Second Slip
    Shane Warne - Third Slip
    Joel Garner - Gully
    Sunil Gavaskar - Cover Point
    Sachin Tendulkar - Mid Off

    On Side:

    Malcolm Marshall - Square leg
    Gordon Greenidge - Short leg
    Allan Border - Mid Wicket
    Great, would flip Viv and BCL though, as Lara always fielded in 1st and Richards was at his best at 2nd when Lloyd was at first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Awesome team Baggy! One suggestion though, no need for a mid off with that terrific bowling unit, bring in a fourth slip!
    Sunny was a good slip fielder. Can easily shuffle around the off side field to open up a gap between gully and cover to temp the batsman for a drive. Hadlee, Marshall and Garner are good enough to bowl to four slips and a gully I agree.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bagapath View Post
    When Richard Hadlee starts the first over with Adam Gilchrist behind the stumps, this will be the field setting.

    Off Side:

    Viv Richards - First Slip
    Brian Lara - Second Slip
    Shane Warne - Third Slip
    Joel Garner - Gully
    Sunil Gavaskar - Cover Point
    Sachin Tendulkar - Mid Off

    On Side:

    Malcolm Marshall - Square leg
    Gordon Greenidge - Short leg
    Allan Border - Mid Wicket
    Deep backward square instead of a square leg. Presumably you're starting with a short leg for the odd bumper thrown down, so you ought to have a guy out there for the hook

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    Quote Originally Posted by harsh.skm View Post
    Marshall's a sure for. But I think he will select one between Steve Waugh and Jacques Kallis rather than Allan Border. I think Kallis would be perfect here. Good fifth bowler. As good a bat as Waugh and Border. Hope he doesn't put Botham because as he claims only the post-85 era is involved and Botham was average there. But, then so was Viv (well not average, but not the god he is claimed to be). So I don't know.
    I am such a jobless guy that I have even thought through the bowling attack's workload. I have imagined how these four will divide ther spells and complete 80 overs before new ball gets taken in the last session for the opening bowlers to hurl down 5 overs each. After very elaborately breaking down their day's work it comes to this finally.

    Hadlee 20 overs
    Marshall 19 overs
    Garner 22 overs
    Warne 29 overs

    Since this looks practical I don't think I will ever resort to using a fifth bowler.

    Now that I have shared this with you, I don't know what I will think of in the shower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagapath View Post
    Since this looks practical I don't think I will ever resort to using a fifth bowler.

    Now that I have shared this with you, I don't know what I will think of in the shower.
    I think that betrays just how off the cuff Test captaincy has to be sometimes. When Viv had an attack of Marshall, Garner, Holding and Walsh (and not a **** was given about the over rate), he'd still bring himself on from time to time. I think it's fair enough to plan to use just the four bowlers but you have to be at least a little prepared to deviate.
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    Fair enough. I get your point. Border and Richards and Tendulkar can certainly manage 15 harmless overs between them even if one of the main bowlers breaks down. Honestly, since these are players I want to watch I can't bring in Kallis though he can replace any of the middle order bats in terms of effectiveness.
    Last edited by bagapath; 15-09-2013 at 10:10 PM.

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    I think the biggest issue would be you probably wouldn't want Warne bowling ~30 on a day 1 or non really spinning track, might need 5-10 overs help from someone somewhere.
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    Garner was always good at bowling long economic spells.

    Great team and write up Bagapath. Really enjoyed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riggins View Post
    I think the biggest issue would be you probably wouldn't want Warne bowling ~30 on a day 1 or non really spinning track, might need 5-10 overs help from someone somewhere.
    Yes, if he bowls 29 overs on day 1 but the new ball is taken that means he's bowling unchanged from about 45 minutes into the day.
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    My dad always said about being captain that if you bowl half the overs, you'll take half the wickets.

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    in their long and illustrious careers, warne averaged 25 overs per innings, Hadlee - 24. Garner - 20 and Marshall - 19. That nicely adds up to 88 overs. considering their SR, that should be good enough to bowl the opposition out (for about 250 runs). If they need a breather, there are those useful part timers already mentioned above. no great team needed five full fledged bowlers to win consistently. four great bowlers are difficult to come together at the same time for selection. But when they rarely do, they are more than enough to do the job.
    Last edited by bagapath; 16-09-2013 at 06:38 AM.
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