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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    The Wonga point is an interesting one - when I first heard about it my initial reaction was kudos to Cisse but that he was being a bit precious, but I hadn't thought through then what insidious organisations these payday loan companies are - since then I've had to help my nephew out with one of them - they may not use physical violence but overall I think they are much more of a blight on society that the old fashioned loan shark. Going back to the Keegan days the toon were one of my favourite football teams - employing the despicable Pards rather dented that, but now they're associated with Wonga I wish them all the ill luck going
    They have had some rather unfortunate associations in the Hall & Ashley eras, yes. Dyer, Bellamy, Wise & Kinnear (such a **** they hired him twice, to paraphrase Francis Albert) up/down there too.

    Still, unlike their Wearside buddies, at least they don't have an actual fascist in charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karan316 View Post
    This is just sheer marketing, nothing else, but the problem is that it shouldn't have went this far. Criticizing someone for his religious beliefs is just gross.. especially in this case.
    Religions generally and specifically shouldn't be immune from legitimate criticism and debate and it's sad that they have all but become that

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post

    Still, unlike their Wearside buddies, at least they don't have an actual fascist in charge.
    Fortunately I realised that in the nick of time to edit out the pro-Mackem comment I had originally put at the end of my post

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    Religions generally and specifically shouldn't be immune from legitimate criticism and debate and it's sad that they have all but become that
    Lets not forget churches and tax exemptions etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Calling bull**** on this unless you can prove otherwise. From a source that isn't the Daily Mail.
    Don't know where I read it but they give a trophy now as Toure at City refused to accept a bottle of champagne. You can call it bull**** all you like but why get rid of the bottle of bubbly otherwise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    Don't know where I read it but they give a trophy now as Toure at City refused to accept a bottle of champagne. You can call it bull**** all you like but why get rid of the bottle of bubbly otherwise?
    No, they don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    No, they don't.
    I thought they did, never watch the interviews after premier****e games anyway. Beats the deep fried mars bar they give in Scotland though.

    Doesn't alter the fact you haven't said why they stopped a bottle of bubbly as the prize though.
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    Taking this further as a hypothetical discussion on the sponsorship issue

    If a team is selected where a significant proportion of the members object to wearing a sponsors logo

    What happens ?
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    The sponsor pulls the deal leaving the team without the money, players will not be payed at the rate expected ?
    or the alternative is that only players who agree to wear the sponsors logo are selected ?

    Is it as simple as getting another sponsor that doesn't have the problems ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwinter View Post
    Taking this further as a hypothetical discussion on the sponsorship issue

    If a team is selected where a significant proportion of the members object to wearing a sponsors logo

    What happens ?
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    The sponsor pulls the deal leaving the team without the money, players will not be payed at the rate expected ?
    or the alternative is that only players who agree to wear the sponsors logo are selected ?

    Is it as simple as getting another sponsor that doesn't have the problems ?
    If either party thinks that's a likely occurrence, then they wouldn't sponsor them in the first place. It's essentially why Pakistan is sponsored by Pepsi, not an alcohol company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Its true, but hands up all the people who have, or have thought of purchasing VB since hearing about this event. Anyone? But its a subconscious thing they say..
    They're not exactly an internationally-recognized brand the way Foster's is. So yes, all of this talk does help in terms of brand recognition at least. Same was true for Castle Lager.
    But the bigger issue is that the more widely recognized the brand of beer, the ****tier it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    Yeah this is actually a point I've struggled with in the last day. What does he actually mean?

    No doubt the connotations are ridiculous, but it would be interesting to know what he actually meant. I suspect he meant Pakistan because Campese is a **** head, but no doubt if he was pressed on it he'd say home to Australia.

    Don't get me wrong, either way he's a **** wit, I think one is less bad than the other though.
    He knows what he meant. It's a nice dogwhistle to nativists and xenophobes

    That said, if fawad doesn't want to wear the logo, in an ideal world, he shouldn't be paid as much or ca should find another logo for his shirt with fair compensation to vb for not having its logo on all xi players.

    But yeah, this dustup still helps vb because of the additional publicity

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    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    Don't know where I read it but they give a trophy now as Toure at City refused to accept a bottle of champagne. You can call it bull**** all you like but why get rid of the bottle of bubbly otherwise?
    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    No, they don't.
    Flibberty is right here.

    Hope the BBC is sufficiently far removed from the Fail as a source.

    Until recently, all Premier League players named man of the match were awarded a bottle of champagne.

    Yet for Muslims, alcohol is forbidden. So when Manchester City midfielder Yaya Toure politely refused to accept his award on religious grounds during a television interview, the competition organisers were forced to sit up and take notice.

    Champagne was phased out and now all players receive a small trophy instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    This will be an intolerant post that will draw censure but I am just some mug on the Internet so take it for what it is worth

    Some religious beliefs annoy me -"I can't be associated with beer" like this chap.
    sikhs who say "I need to wear a sword on the outside of my clothing in public for religious reasons" despite the fact people feel intimidated around them.
    religious views on the role of women in society in Afghanistan
    mormans who need to marry 13 wives and leave some other poor chap unable to meet anyone because you have hogged all the ladies to yourself.

    I basically agree with Doug Walters - but think Campo was a bit OTT
    It's a little bit worrying, on both counts, how you use the same word to describe your feelings towards #1 and #3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    Religions generally and specifically shouldn't be immune from legitimate criticism and debate and it's sad that they have all but become that
    Huh tell that to Bradman fanatics and Sachin fanatics and see the response.
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    I don't personally agree with alcohol or tobacco companies sponsoring the sports event. Tobacco and alcohol basically accounts for 50% of the health budget in SL, where the health services are free of charge. Even in a country where it is not the case, I don't think tobacco and alcohol are useful things.

    But to have special laws based on religions is borderline madness.

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