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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooksey View Post
    I haven't drank VB for years, nor even thought about the brand. But all of a sudden the VB name is everywhere and as they say, there's no such thing as bad advertising.
    Fawad its worth, I disagree that there is no such thing as bad advertising. There is so much bad advertising, there is some good too.
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    To play devil's advocate slightly, why are religious objections to advertising logos treated as a separate category to other, some might argue more salient, disinclinations to wearing them?

    If folk what to go to whatever building of their choice and talk to their invisible chum (or chums for polytheists), that's all good but should they qualify for special treatment? What if, say, Chris Rogers was a CAMRA member and objected to a VB logo on the (reasonable) grounds that it's macro brewed pisswater? Should he be excused too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    To play devil's advocate slightly, why are religious objections to advertising logos treated as a separate category to other, some might argue more salient, disinclinations to wearing them?

    If folk what to go to whatever building of their choice and talk to their invisible chum (or chums for polytheists), that's all good but should they qualify for special treatment? What if, say, Chris Rogers was a CAMRA member and objected to a VB logo on the (reasonable) grounds that it's macro brewed pisswater? Should he be excused too?
    Well in this case it's as people have said, there aren't enough Muslims around the team for it to become an issue for the sponsors, so they can object.

    More generally with these things - headwear in school etc - it's a combination of being able to deal with a few exceptions to the rule and not wanting to cause a ****storm. I think you're right, but in order to keep people happy it's a fair compromise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Fawad its worth, I disagree that there is no such thing as bad advertising. There is so much bad advertising, there is some good too.
    The " There's no such thing as bad advertising" expression is of course from a seller's perspective. In this case VB's

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    Did Khawaja wear a VB logo when he played? I must admit I didn't notice. Not even sure if the test kit has one on anyway.

    I don't actually know if he's Muslim, tbf, but as he took his maiden bow in Pakistan there's a sporting chance he was born into the faith even if he's not an adherent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Did Khawaja wear a VB logo when he played? I must admit I didn't notice. Not even sure if the test kit has one on anyway.

    I don't actually know if he's Muslim, tbf, but as he took his maiden bow in Pakistan there's a sporting chance he was born into the faith even if he's not an adherent.
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    Hmm. Interesting.

    Wonder if Invers et al ever thought to ask him if he objected?

    I know he's culturally Australian (having been raised as a crim since he was 3) as opposed to just legally Australian like Fawad, but if he's a Muslim too...

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    Interesting story, we have had similar over here in the Premier League with Cisse at Newcastle refusing to wear the 'Wonga' logo for a loan company. Also the post match bottle of champagne for the man of the match is no more as there are so many muslim players and it caused offence. I have no problem with people standing by their beliefs as a matter of principle and people like Campese who spout their mouths off before they think are just showing themselves up for what they are. The real winners in this are VB as they have had their name splashed everywhere for no cost and no doubt they will come out and say he doesn't have to wear it making them look good in all this.

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    These blokes wouldn't have a problem with this if Ahmed was the best in the world like Hashim Amla is.

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    The Wonga point is an interesting one - when I first heard about it my initial reaction was kudos to Cisse but that he was being a bit precious, but I hadn't thought through then what insidious organisations these payday loan companies are - since then I've had to help my nephew out with one of them - they may not use physical violence but overall I think they are much more of a blight on society that the old fashioned loan shark. Going back to the Keegan days the toon were one of my favourite football teams - employing the despicable Pards rather dented that, but now they're associated with Wonga I wish them all the ill luck going

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    This is just sheer marketing, nothing else, but the problem is that it shouldn't have went this far. Criticizing someone for his religious beliefs is just gross.. especially in this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    Interesting story, we have had similar over here in the Premier League with Cisse at Newcastle refusing to wear the 'Wonga' logo for a loan company. Also the post match bottle of champagne for the man of the match is no more as there are so many muslim players and it caused offence. I have no problem with people standing by their beliefs as a matter of principle and people like Campese who spout their mouths off before they think are just showing themselves up for what they are. The real winners in this are VB as they have had their name splashed everywhere for no cost and no doubt they will come out and say he doesn't have to wear it making them look good in all this.
    Calling bull**** on this unless you can prove otherwise. From a source that isn't the Daily Mail.

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