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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Yeah but he's a fine player. Surely having a go at #3 beats sitting out.
    I think he's one of Bangladesh's best batsmen, which is also what I might be saying about Shane Watson had he never become an opener and cemented his role batting at 6.

    What Bangladesh need to realise is that both Shakib and Mahmudullah are clearly in their top 7 batsmen and are good enough bowlers to be part of a 5 man attack. There's simply no need for either Nasir Hossain or Abdur Razzak in this team.

    They should never be picking more than 3 specialist bowlers. They can stack their batting lineup, pick their two best pacers and Sohag and they've got 5 bowlers easily. When you factor in that Naeem will also play at some stage the situation is ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    I think he's one of Bangladesh's best batsmen, which is also what I might be saying about Shane Watson had he never become an opener and cemented his role batting at 6.

    What Bangladesh need to realise is that both Tamim and Mahmudullah are clearly in their top 7 batsmen and are good enough bowlers to be part of a 5 man attack. There's simply no need for either Nasir Hossain or Abdur Razzak in this team.

    They should never be picking more than 3 specialist bowlers. They can stack their batting lineup, pick their two best pacers and Sohag and they've got 5 bowlers easily. When you factor in that Naeem will also play at some stage the situation is ridiculous.
    Nasir Hossain is clearly good enough on batting alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by wellAlbidarned View Post
    also it's CW ritual to question a young batsman's capability in mythical "bowling conditions" whenever they score runs even though everywhere is just flat
    Haha you'll tend to be found out in alien conditions even when it's "flat" though if you have a poor technique. Mominul reminds me a lot of Dhawan actually; probably doesn't have quite the eye or the finesse but the technique is quite similar. It'll be very interesting to see how they go in England, Australia and South Africa. Not that Bangladesh wouldn't absolutely chew your arm off for someone who averaged 50 in the subcontinent and 20 in countries they only tour once in a blue moon anyway, mind you...


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    Personally I think Mahmudullah is just as talented as Shakib, he just didn't make a name for himself quite as well and consequently doesn't have the power to say where he wants to bat. He quite rightly knows that he's not a number 3 batsman and if Bangladesh want a number 3 batsman then they should look for a number 3 batsman.

    There's simply no need for any team to ever play more than 2 allrounders, and Bangladesh's best 2 are Shakib and Mahmudallah. Not Nasir Hossain. Not anyone else.

    Just because their best batsman are also allrounders doesn't mean you can't bat another batsman behind them at 8. Having allrounders doesn't mean you need more bowlers, it means you have the chance to pick fewer.

    Pick their best 3 bowlers, those 2 allrounders and stack their batting lineup to hell.
    1. Batsman
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    5. Shakib
    6. Mahmudallah
    7. Mushfiqur, or any away around you want to put it
    8. Batsman
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    10. Pace bowler
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Nasir Hossain is clearly good enough on batting alone.
    well, if you think so, but the point is that he has to make it as a batsman alone ahead of other batsmen because personally I think Bangladesh's best batsman are 1. Shakib 2. Mushfiqur 3. Mahmudullah.

    That they are also allrounders is a huge bonus for the team which ostensibly should allow them to pick more batsmen. These batsmen should be selected as batsmen alone, and their bowling should have nothing to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Haha you'll tend to be found out in alien conditions even when it's "flat" though if you have a poor technique. Mominul reminds me a lot of Dhawan actually; probably doesn't have quite the eye or the finesse but the technique is quite similar. It'll be very interesting to see how they go in England, Australia and South Africa. Not that Bangladesh wouldn't absolutely chew your arm off for someone who averaged 50 in the subcontinent and 20 in countries they only tour once in a blue moon anyway, mind you...
    Of course there are some deficiencies which will screw you outside the SC like Raina's ball-above-knee-high phobia, but the old addage that "doesn't move his feet, fodder against good bowlers" doesn't really ring true these days, there's just so many exceptions. The best modern batsmen seem to favour playing the ball very late from the crease without much of a stride, which is frowned upon by classical coaches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike5181 View Post
    As impressive as the Bangladesh batsmen have been, I'll pass on that if all they are going to do is produce absolute roads. The chances of either team winning this game is slim to none just like the last one.
    To be honest we had to play on some absolute roads aswell when we toured there last year HERE!!..as you can see the first test had two 500 plus first innings!!...and yet we still found a way to win, so my view is if you've got an attack that can perform in these conditions then you should get a result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WindieWeathers View Post
    To be honest we had to play on some absolute roads aswell when we toured there last year HERE!!..as you can see the first test had two 500 plus first innings!!...and yet we still found a way to win, so my view is if you've got an attack that can perform in these conditions then you should get a result.
    You guys have a good spinner though.
    Tino Best has a bit of pace which is missing from the NZ attack. That's why we're really excited about Milne. Very soon the attack could be Southee, Boult, Milne, Vettori, Anderson, which I'd back to perform anywhere.

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    ****'s sake stop picking ****ing Razzak. Mahmudullah is a better bowler and miles better batsman and he's not playing?

    Hate seeing teams that have such awful selections in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    You guys have a good spinner though.
    He got absolutely belted anyway though didn't he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    ****'s sake stop picking ****ing Razzak. Mahmudullah is a better bowler and miles better batsman and he's not playing?
    I do wonder how he'd feel about bowling a lot more overs. Apparently he pretty much refuses to bat higher than #6 which at the very least is "interesting", but as you say he's a greater wicket taking-taking threat than Razzak (and their seamers) anyway.

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    Yea I don't really mind who Bangladesh pick, as long as they're not picking a limited overs specialist bowling flat, medium-slow ****e because he can bowl most of the day and stay at around 3 an over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    You guys have a good spinner though.
    Tino Best has a bit of pace which is missing from the NZ attack. That's why we're really excited about Milne. Very soon the attack could be Southee, Boult, Milne, Vettori, Anderson, which I'd back to perform anywhere.
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