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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    I also find it very interesting comparing the "top 10" to the "all time teams". You wouldn't have Ambrose and McGrath in the same team, for example. And there wouldn't be much point in Murali and Warne together. Imran usually makes it as a 3rd pace bowler, but probably wouldn't make the top 5 bowlers of all time. Wasim Akram, being a left arm swing bowler and reverse swing maestro makes my team because of the variety he brings, but again might not make my top 5 bowlers of all time.

    I think you're not losing much between many of the bowlers in the top 10.
    That's what I think too.
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    And there wouldn't be much point in Murali and Warne together.

    I think you're not losing much between many of the bowlers in the top 10.
    Disagree on Warne and Murali. Can see a heap of benefits to having them both in the side.

    Agree on the top ten (pace) bowlers. The differences statistically are so marginal between all of them.

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    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Cameron+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    can't believe we haven't found a cure for cologne cancer yet
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    lol....I know it was tragic but i couldn't help lol at this

    Sadly he died of cologne cancer in 1999

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    FDA really needs to get their **** together with those volatile perfumes. Expecting some Benson and Hedges style lobbying from LVMH, Hermes, Tom forward and co, but lives are at stake here.

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    carcinogenic perfumes wouldn't be falling under the purview of the FDA or would they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronis View Post

    McGrath
    Marshall
    Murali
    Warne

    Honestly those 4 are the best spin and pace bowlers, and there is pretty much no separating them. If pressed, I'd go for McGrath and Murali, based on bowling alone. The others, in no particular order:

    Barnes
    Grimmett
    O'Reilly
    Ambrose
    Lillee
    Procter
    Akram

    Again, all interchangeable, and on another day, I might pick any of the other greats to replace Lillee, Procter and Akram.
    So its McG and Murali yet Murali couldnt find a place in your ATG XI!
    CricZo XI - 3 Draft Winner

    Scorecard Draft (2010) V Sehwag, D Amiss, D Bradman (c), C Cowdrey, P Umrigar, A Faulkner, R Marsh +, M Marshall, W Hall, M Hughes, B O'Reilly
    Alphabetical Draft (2011) S Watson, G Kirsten, D Bradman (c), K Sangakkara +, C Cowdrey, K Pietersen, A Flintoff, M Marshall, B O'Reilly, F Trueman, T Alderman
    The Eras Draft (2014) V Trumper, A Morris, N Harvey, J Kallis, S McCabe, F Woolley, Imran Khan (c), J Dujon +, J Briggs, D Steyn, J Snow

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingkallis View Post
    So its McG and Murali yet Murali couldnt find a place in your ATG XI!
    Not much between Murali and Warne, the only reason Warne gets in is because of his batting and fielding.
    ATG World XI
    1. J.B Hobbs 2. H. Sutcliffe 3. D.G Bradman 4. W.R Hammond 5. G.S Sobers 6. A.C Gilchrist 7. Imran Khan 8. M.D Marshall 9. S.K Warne 10. M. Muralitharan 11. G.D McGrath

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    01. Sir Donald Bradman
    02. Sir I.V.A. Richards
    03. Sir Jack Hobbs
    04. Sir Garfield Sobers
    05. Sachin Tendulkar
    06. Brian Lara
    07. George Headley
    08. Sir Leonard Hutton
    09. Graeme Pollock
    10. Greg Chappell

    01. Malcolm Marshall
    02. Glenn McGrath
    03. Shane Warne
    04. Muttiah Muralitharan
    05. Curtly Ambrose
    06. Dennis Lillee
    07. Fred Trueman
    08. William O'Reilly
    09. Michael Holding
    10. Imran Khan

    Two notes; 1) for the batsmen, for me five through seven are virtually tied, with the other three not far behind at all, they are all so very close and not much in it at all from two to ten. 2) None of the bowlers are knighted, seems to be a batsman bias there.
    01. Sir Donald Bradman
    02. Sir I.V.A. Richrads
    03. Sir Garfield Sobers
    04. Sachin Tendulkar
    05. Brian Lara
    06. Sir Jack Hobbs
    07. Sir Leonard Hutton
    08. Graeme Pollock
    09. Greg Chappell
    10. George Headley / Ricky Ponting

    01. Malcolm Marshall
    02. Glenn McGrath
    03. Muttiah Muralitharan
    04. Dennis Lillee
    05. Shane Warne
    06. Curtly Ambrose
    07. Dale Steyn
    08. Fred Trueman
    09. Alan Donald
    10. Michael Holding / Richard Hadlee / Imran Khan

    Sorry about the cheat, but hard to separate the three for differing reasons and all three deserve to be there.
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    how does Shane Warne get rated ahead of Imran, Holding and Hadlee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    how does Shane Warne get rated ahead of Imran, Holding and Hadlee?
    Because he was so far ahead of any other leg spinner, but I agree he wasn't more effective that any of the three. Average, s/r and wpm he wasn't ahead of any of them except for WPM ahead of Holding and Imran and injuries contributed to the lower numbers for both of them.

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    There's no point comparing the averages/SR of spinners against quicks. Good quicks will almost always have better averages and SRs than spinners. You either need to categorise them separately, or understand that cricket teams almost always need spinners, and spinners are almost never as economical, and almost never strike as regularly, as quicks.
    Last edited by Red Hill; 22-09-2013 at 03:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    can't believe we haven't found a cure for cologne cancer yet
    It's a terrible affliction, I remember having terrible trouble with a bottle of Joop! Pour Homme once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    There's no point comparing the averages/SR of spinners against quicks. Good quicks will almost always have better averages and SRs than spinners. You either need to categorise them separately, or understand that cricket teams almost always need spinners, and spinners are almost never as economical, and almost never strike as regularly, as quicks.
    Then why do you need them. I disagree on the notion that teams need spinners. The greatest attack of all time utilized four quicks while the best team in the world currently doesn't have a competent spinner and they are doing quite well.

    From an ATG Team perspective, unless it's Warne or Murali and four great quicks are available (especially if a Garner is available who is capable of marathon economical spells) then I will go four quicks.
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