I think there'll sooner be another Bradman than another Warne. - Gidgeon Haigh
[Warne is] the greatest bowler ever produced in this entire world - Muttiah Muralidaran
[Warne is] the greatest bowler of all time - Glenn McGrath
In my opinion Shane Warne is the greatest cricketer who's ever lived - Ian Botham
Warne is the greatest cricketer to pick up a ball ever.
And is the greatest bowler I have ever laid eyes on. - Brian Lara
Oh I know, I was just being a jerk.
I don't like what the new ranking did to G. Pollock. Prefer the original one, with possibly the cap on career points removed.
DoG it goes without saying but this has been a phenomenal effort. Fascinating from start to finish. Congratulations.
Echo all the thanks for sharing this with us DoG. One question - what happens to Headley's rating if you remove his post-war tests? Obviously his career length would shorten dramatically, but his average would go up, as would his percentage of games played, significant/great innings per test? Does his rating go up significantly?
Very interesting exercise. I kind of missed the beginning of this process and have only just seen how low Martin Crowe is - as the only Kiwi representative on the list and unarguably NZ's best batsman of all time. I guess guys with better records statistically (Dempster, Donnelly) just didn't play enough Tests. Would they be ranked at all? How far out of the top 100 did Bert Sutcliffe come?
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Supporting Petone's Finest since the very start - Iain O'Brien
Adam Wheater - Another batsman off the Essex production line
Also Supporting the All Time #1 Batsman of All Time Ever - Jacques Kallis and the much maligned Peter Siddle.
Vimes tells it how it is:
I think I'm right in saying that no-one's scored more Test runs at Headingley than Bradman.
Over 500 points ahead of the pack. Puts things into perspective, doesn't it?
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And whilst we are all pondering the sheer awe of DG Bradman lets just put that little record into perspective.......The Don is indeed the highest test run scorer at Headingley and he played 6 innings on the ground, next highest is Boycott.......who scored his runs across 10 more innings.
In his 6 innings Bradman amassed an incredible 963 runs at Headingley at an average of 192.6.
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We are the famous Barmy Army
And we'll cheer England on wherever they may be
And we'll sing them on to another victory...
Been a terrific and enlightening read DOG, only caught this last thread so will have to go back and read the others now........thanks so much for the effort, amazing work!!
If I could make one criticism though, there must be a flaw somewhere in the calculations for Ian Bell not to make the top 10??
Bell would probably be in the top 100 now after the Ashes. I'll have to check that out.
Heath, Bert Sutcliffe has 637 points.
The top kiwis are:
Bradman did have 11 great innings but on recalculation of the formula this gets bumped up to 15. I will recalculate Lara's soon.
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Greatest Ever Test XI: JB Hobbs, L Hutton, DG Bradman (c), IVA Richards, BC Lara, GS Sobers, AC Gilchrist (wk), Imran Khan, RJ Hadlee, MD Marshall, SK Warne 12th man: M Muralitharan
Favorite XI: WG Grace, VT Trumper, IVA Richards, DCS Compton, FMM Worrell (c), AC Gilchrist (wk), CL Cairns, SK Warne, FS Trueman, SE Bond, T Richardson 12th man: H Larwood
Anyway, I want to thank NUFAN for making the suggestion that Kallis didn't deserve 2 of his great innings. This has led me to recalculating how I rate innings.
I am also incorporating innings-by-innings bowling averages for opposition bowling attacks.
Thanks to the feedback from all of you, these ratings will only get better.
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