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    yeah....DoG....how come Miandad's innings against the WI don't show up in his list of great innings?
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    His two centuries in the West Indies in 1988 got 8.72 and 11.98.

    Again, these are statistical measurements, which take into account the team score and the strength of opposition. It doesn't measure aesthetics, whether Miandad was feeling under the weather at the time, or how many bouncers the Windies bowlers gave him.
    Greatest Ever Test XI: JB Hobbs, L Hutton, DG Bradman (c), IVA Richards, BC Lara, GS Sobers, AC Gilchrist (wk), Imran Khan, RJ Hadlee, MD Marshall, SK Warne 12th man: M Muralitharan


    Favorite XI: WG Grace, VT Trumper, IVA Richards, DCS Compton, FMM Worrell (c), AC Gilchrist (wk), CL Cairns, SK Warne, FS Trueman, SE Bond, T Richardson 12th man: H Larwood

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    wrong thread
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    21. Everton Weekes (West Indies) (1948-1958)



    Career Length (Days): 3717
    Percentage of team's matches played: 98%
    Career Average: 58.61
    Adjusted career average: 55.54 (rank 9)
    Adjusted away average: 48.65
    Adjusted top-opposition average: 46.06
    Top Tier centuries: 1
    Second tier centuries: 0
    Third tier centuries: 7
    Significant innings: 17
    Significant innings per match: 0.35

    Great innings: 0

    Innings worth average: 3.92 (rank 7)

    25 Test peak adjusted average: 65.26 (1948-1954)

    Quality Points: 638
    Career Points: 50
    Peak Points: 136
    TOTAL POINTS: 825


    Everton Weekes plundered runs against weak teams but was only moderately successful against the best bowling attacks of his era. That costs this wonderfully attacking middle-order batsman a place in the top 20. He is also one of only three players in the top 50 to not have a great innings. His highest rated innings was 90* made against England in 1953/54. He still has 5 innings rated above 10.00 points.
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    Agree, sustained a bad hamstring injury after that 90* that greatly affected his movement and production. But never really fired in later series either. Wonderful all round cricketer who Bradman said was the W.I batsman that was closest to him and Sobers called the best W.I batsman he has seen, also a world class slip fielder in the Hammond/ Chappell class. Brilliant batsman who just never got in right againts the very best for one reason or another.
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    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Waite+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    Great work from bagapath there.
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    My personal favourite of the 3 W's though yes, somewhat of a minnow basher. Just wondering, you didn't indicate if Pollock's adjusted career and top opposition averages were in the top 10, was wondering if you could fix that?
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    1. J.B Hobbs 2. H. Sutcliffe 3. D.G Bradman 4. W.R Hammond 5. G.S Sobers 6. M.J Procter 7. A.C Gilchrist 8. M.D Marshall 9. S.K Warne 10. M. Muralitharan 11. G.D McGrath

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    what a photograph!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bagapath View Post
    what a photograph!!!!!
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    20. Rahul Dravid (India) (1996-2012)



    Career Length (Days): 5696
    Percentage of team's matches played: 99%
    Career Average: 52.31
    Adjusted career average: 48.70
    Adjusted away average: 49.66
    Adjusted top-opposition average: 43.75
    Top Tier centuries: 7 (rank 9=)
    Second tier centuries: 2
    Third tier centuries: 17
    Significant innings: 56 (rank 5)
    Significant innings per match: 0.34

    Great innings: 7 (rank 5=)
    2nd Test: India v Australia at Kolkata, Mar 11-15, 2001 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 14.37
    2nd Test: Australia v India at Adelaide, Dec 12-16, 2003 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 18.50
    3rd Test: Pakistan v India at Rawalpindi, Apr 13-16, 2004 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 16.11
    4th Test: India v Australia at Mumbai, Nov 3-5, 2004 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 12.61 (1st Inns)
    1st Test: India v Sri Lanka at Ahmedabad, Nov 16-20, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 13.18
    1st Test: West Indies v India at Kingston, Jun 20-23, 2011 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 12.64
    4th Test: England v India at The Oval, Aug 18-22, 2011 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 14.73

    Innings worth average: 3.26

    25 Test peak adjusted average: 69.01 (2002-2005)
    50 Test peak adjusted average: 63.10 (2000-2005) (rank 9)

    Quality Points: 556
    Career Points: 142
    Peak Points: 139
    TOTAL POINTS: 837

    The wall of Indian cricket for more than 15 years, Dravid has a stack-load of career points due to being ranked in the top 10 in terms of significant and great innings. He is unlucky to not have even more great innings. His famous twin-fifties in the West Indies in 2006 were rated 12.46 & 11.12. Where Dravid loses points is in his surprisingly low top-opposition average. He "only" averaged 40.31 (adjusted up from 37.68) against the top tier opposition of his day. His 31* on the infamous Mumbai dustbowl in 2004 must surely be the lowest score to get a rating of 12.50 or more.
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    wow...this is a surprise.....would have thought that Dravid might finish higher given that he is played a big part in a lot of victories

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    Yeah thought Dravid might've squeezed in to the 15, but sadly no. Inzamam's gotta be next, right?

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    Great work as usual DoG, two points though.

    The first is a question, did you consider at any time utilizing strike rate as part of you equation, for me it makes up so much of how we rate batsmen, as much as runs vs top opposition. For example few rate the likes of Barrington, Sutcliffe ect ahead of say Ponting and Viv dispite higher averages. Just a thought.

    Second, while I though both would have rated higher, I figured that Pollock and Weekes would have been ranked rather closely as I personally rate them more or less equals with Pollock just ahead. I have rated them similar as neither really dominated high quality attacks in tests (Pollock didn't get the opportunity, Weekes was either injured or just failed) and never fully understood the basis of comparrisons between Pollock and the likes of Lara, Richards, Tendulkar ect who did prove they could play top tier attacks. Hammond is also one who I rate a tad closer to Pollock and Weekes (some where between Pollock and Weekes actually) than the aforementioned and interested to see where he lands.

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    If you check the original post in this thread, you'll see that strike-rate for 50+ scores is part of the formula.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Great work as usual DoG, two points though.

    The first is a question, did you consider at any time utilizing strike rate as part of you equation, for me it makes up so much of how we rate batsmen, as much as runs vs top opposition. For example few rate the likes of Barrington, Sutcliffe ect ahead of say Ponting and Viv dispite higher averages. .
    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    If you check the original post in this thread, you'll see that strike-rate for 50+ scores is part of the formula.

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