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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Fully agree, thought he would be lower. The fact that he is higher than Pollock and Weekes shows that numbers can never tell the entire story. Understandable though as it is a statistical analysis.
    Heard you express this view first time. Thanks for letting us know. Also, what do you think of importance of strike rates?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ankitj View Post
    EDIT: Keen to know who will be the last batsman without a great innings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    I just couldn't agree more.
    ATG World XI
    1. J.B Hobbs 2. H. Sutcliffe 3. D.G Bradman 4. R.G Pollock 5. W.R Hammond 6. G.S Sobers 7. A.C Gilchrist 8. M.J Procter 9. M.D Marshall 10. S.K Warne 11. G.D McGrath


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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    If you are trying to troll me with that, you have chosen wrong target mate. I couldn't care less where Tendulkar is ranked or how many great innings he has. Not at all.

    If I would care for one Indian batsman that would be Dhoni Which reminds me, DoG how are Dhoni's following two innings rated:

    2nd Test: Pakistan v India at Faisalabad, Jan 21-25, 2006 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

    1st Test: India v Australia at Chennai, Feb 22-26, 2013 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ankitj View Post
    If you are trying to troll me with that, you have chosen wrong target mate. I couldn't care less where Tendulkar is ranked or how many great innings he has. Not at all.

    If I would care for one Indian batsman that would be Dhoni Which reminds me, DoG how are Dhoni's following two innings rated:

    2nd Test: Pakistan v India at Faisalabad, Jan 21-25, 2006 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

    1st Test: India v Australia at Chennai, Feb 22-26, 2013 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
    1.01 & 0.09 respectively.
    Greatest Ever Test XI: JB Hobbs, L Hutton, DG Bradman (c), IVA Richards, BC Lara, GS Sobers, AC Gilchrist (wk), Imran Khan, RJ Hadlee, MD Marshall, SK Warne 12th man: M Muralitharan


    Favorite XI: WG Grace, VT Trumper, IVA Richards, DCS Compton, FMM Worrell (c), AC Gilchrist (wk), CL Cairns, SK Warne, FS Trueman, SE Bond, T Richardson 12th man: H Larwood

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronis View Post
    I just couldn't agree more.
    shouldn't minimise his magnificent career though.
    1st XI
    Hutton | Hobbs | Bradman* | Richards^ | Tendulkar | Sobers5^ | Gilchrist+ | Khan3 | Marshall1 | Warne4^ | McGrath2
    2nd XI
    Sutcliffe | Gavaskar* | Headley | Chappell^ | Lara^ | Kallis5^ | Knott+ | Hadlee3 | Ambrose2 | Lillee1 | Muralitharan4
    3rd XI
    Greenidge | Richards^ | Ponting^ | Pollock | Hammond^ | Worrell5* | Waite+ | Akram3 | Steyn1 | Holding2 | O'Reilly4
    4th XI
    Morris | Simpson^ | Sangakkara | Weekes^ | Border*^ | Walcott+ | Faulkner5 | Laker4 | Trueman1 | Garner3 | Donald2

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    Great read. Lovely work DoG.
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    15. Steve Waugh (Australia) (1985-2004)



    Career Length (Days): 6581
    Percentage of team's matches played: 89%
    Career Average: 51.06
    Adjusted career average: 49.80
    Adjusted away average: 55.24
    Adjusted top-opposition average: 46.51
    Top Tier centuries: 5
    Second tier centuries: 3
    Third tier centuries: 18
    Significant innings: 62 (rank 3)
    Significant innings per match: 0.37

    Great innings: 3
    3rd Test: England v Australia at Manchester, Jul 3-7, 1997 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 14.61 (1st Inns)
    3rd Test: West Indies v Australia at Port of Spain, Apr 21-23, 1995 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 12.70
    4th Test: West Indies v Australia at Kingston, Apr 29-May 3, 1995 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 14.22

    Innings worth average: 3.17

    25 Test peak adjusted average: 84.14 (1993-1996) (rank 2)
    50 Test peak adjusted average: 65.38 (1993-1998) (rank 4)

    Quality Points: 580
    Career Points: 125
    Peak Points: 150 (rank 6)
    TOTAL POINTS: 855

    Captain of arguably the greatest side ever, Steve Waugh sneaks into the top 15 thanks to an outstanding period of 25 tests during the 1990s when he averaged over 80, a short peak that is 2nd only to Bradman in terms of average. A lot of not outs helped his eventual career average, and in fact he only averaged 58 runs per innings during his 25-test peak. He was also phenomenal overseas and his two of his great innings came in the West Indies in 1995, when Australia took over the title of test champions in the eyes of almost any cricket historian. Above all, after an initial rocky beginning, Steve Waugh came to embody success and winning. His tally of 62 significant innings is the 3rd highest ever. 49 of those innings were played in Australian victories.

    Readers should note that a peak rating encompasses not only averages, but also length of time, runs per innings, centuries scored, and total significant innings.
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    I thought he might be next up. Look at that peak - phenomenal.
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    DoG mentioned that the average rating of the top 25 was 900 - we're up to no.15 now and the average score so far has been 829, so the remaining 14 need to average 956 to get us up to the 900 mark. Either we're about to have a huge jump in scores, or one bloke at the top is going to skew the numbers.

    On a related note DoG, is there a maximum score achievable - as in are these scores "out of" 1000 or something, or is there no upper limit?

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    No upper limit. I wanted the truly great batsmen to score over 900, though.

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    wow....that 25 test peak average is friggin insane....Steve Waugh....WAFG....criminally under rated
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    wow....that 25 test peak average is friggin insane....Steve Waugh....WAFG....criminally under rated
    Though, all those not outs help. Not to belittle his achievements.

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