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    Really though we would have seen LLoyd, Chanderpaul and Younis before Worrell and May.
    Last edited by kyear2; 03-08-2013 at 07:55 AM.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Waite+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcuss View Post
    Hayden was always going to be higher than expected because Aus won a **** load when he was playing. I imagine the 380 helps his score a load too.
    Yeah, I rate Hayden higher than most but I thought his adjusted and away averages might hurt him. You're right though - being a key contributor to a phenomenally successful team must more than make up for it. I'd imagine it's similar for Clive Lloyd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    Innings were ratings as follows:
    1st test: 75 (5.29)
    2nd test: 72 (7.72) & 67 (7.29)
    3rd test: 18 (1.33)
    4th test: 120 (12.69) & 12 (0.91)

    Series I/W average of 5.87.

    Lara's series against Australia in 1999 had an I/W average of 9.17.
    Thanks DoG. You had a post with the ratings for the greatest Test innings of all time.
    IIRC, Lara's innings came out on top with a rating of 24 or 25.
    Can you point me to that post? I am unable to find it through CW search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolkuna View Post
    Thanks DoG. You had a post with the ratings for the greatest Test innings of all time.
    IIRC, Lara's innings came out on top with a rating of 24 or 25.
    Can you point me to that post? I am unable to find it through CW search.
    It was in response to me on this page

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    32. Michael Clarke (Australia) (2004-present day)



    Career Average: 52.34
    Adjusted career average: 48.41
    Adjusted away average: 39.76
    Adjusted top-opposition average: 48.46
    Top Tier centuries: 4
    Second tier centuries: 7
    Third tier centuries: 8
    Significant innings: 36
    Significant innings per match: 0.39

    Great innings: 5
    2nd Test: England v Australia at Lord's, Jul 16-20, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 12.84
    1st Test: South Africa v Australia at Cape Town, Nov 9-11, 2011 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 16.53
    2nd Test: Australia v India at Sydney, Jan 3-6, 2012 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 16.56
    1st Test: Australia v South Africa at Brisbane, Nov 9-13, 2012 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 12.81
    2nd Test: Australia v South Africa at Adelaide, Nov 22-26, 2012 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 13.22


    Innings worth average: 3.28

    25 Test peak adjusted average: 58.96 (2010-2013)
    50 Test peak adjusted average: 54.13 (2008-2013)


    Quality Points: 566
    Career Points: 98
    Peak Points: 125
    TOTAL POINTS: 789





    31. Younis Khan (Pakistan) (2000-present day)



    Career Average: 50.74
    Adjusted career average: 47.44
    Adjusted away average: 46.41
    Adjusted top-opposition average: 45.77
    Top Tier centuries: 5
    Second tier centuries: 7
    Third tier centuries: 5
    Significant innings: 34
    Significant innings per match: 0.41

    Great innings: 2
    1st Test: New Zealand v Pakistan at Auckland, Mar 8-12, 2001 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 13.73
    3rd Test: India v Pakistan at Bangalore, Mar 24-28, 2005 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo 15.53


    Innings worth average: 3.37

    25 Test peak adjusted average: 60.99 (2005-2009)
    50 Test peak adjusted average: 54.68 (2003-2012)


    Quality Points: 563
    Career Points: 96
    Peak Points: 133
    TOTAL POINTS: 792
    Greatest Ever Test XI: JB Hobbs, L Hutton, DG Bradman (c), IVA Richards, BC Lara, GS Sobers, AC Gilchrist (wk), Imran Khan, RJ Hadlee, MD Marshall, SK Warne 12th man: M Muralitharan


    Favorite XI: WG Grace, VT Trumper, IVA Richards, DCS Compton, FMM Worrell (c), AC Gilchrist (wk), CL Cairns, SK Warne, FS Trueman, SE Bond, T Richardson 12th man: H Larwood

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Really though we would have seen LLoyd, Chanderpaul and Younis before Worrell and May.
    May be this ranking exposes some of our biases? May be our perceptions are colored rather than this system being faulty?

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    4 "great innings" in the space of 15 months. Wow.
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    This is really good stuff DoG, that innings a couple days ago if Australia wins might switch these two around! Both exceptional batsmen though.
    Current Favourite XI 1. Cook 2. Gayle 3. Sangakarra 4. Clarke* 5. Chanderpaul 6. Al Hasan 7. De Kock+ 8.Johnson 9.Harris 10. Herath 11. Steyn

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ankitj View Post
    May be this ranking exposes some of our biases? May be our perceptions are colored rather than this system being faulty?
    True. I personally am not surprised with Chanderpaul being rated highly, he is very underrated imo.
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    I'm only pissed off about Younis because I was wrong.
    And we still haven't walked in the glow of each other's majestic presence.

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    Weird question but do Younis Khan's runs in the UAE count on his adjusted away average?

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    Never really thought Younis was underated as such but he is rather forgotten, amazing to see him this high though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Weird question but do Younis Khan's runs in the UAE count on his adjusted away average?
    It's actually a non-home average, so any matches played outside of your own country count towards it. For example, Australia vs. Pakistan in England in 2010 was a non-home series for both teams.

    However, and this is important, all matches played by Pakistan since about the turn of the century in the UAE are counted as home matches, since they are for all intents and purposes just that.
    Last edited by Days of Grace; 04-08-2013 at 02:21 AM.

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    These must be the 30 batsmen to come:
    Code:
    AUS ENG WI IND PAK SA SL
    Bradman Hobbs Sobers Tendulkar Miandad Pollock Sangakkara
    Chappell Hammond Viv Richards Gavaskar Haq Kallis
    Ponting Hutton Lara Dravid Yousuf Nourse
    Border Suttcliffe Weekes
    S. Waugh Barrington Walcott
    Hayden Chanderpaul
    Harvey Lloyd
    Headley

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    since this is purely a statistical exercise i do hope g.pollock and headley do not figure so far up in the list.
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