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    Just because Kallis hasn't often bowled first change doesn't mean that he couldn't do just as good a job as Flintoff - it just means he's invariably been part of a bowling attack that had better bowlers than the English. Also note that South Africa haven't had a test quality spinner in living memory, so the option to play another pace bowler has often been on the cards.

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    Kallis is more than capable of being the third seamer in a 5 man attack. No need for Flintoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
    Even at his peak I don't see how he'd be justifiable over Kallis
    Because Flintoff at his peak was a genuine all rounder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Because Flintoff at his peak was a genuine all rounder.
    His peak was nowhere near long enough though to oust Kallis for me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    - Matthew Hayden
    - Graham Smith
    - Ricky Ponting
    - Jaques Kallis
    - Brian Lara
    - Mohammed Yousuf
    - Adam Gilchrist
    - Shane Warne
    - Jason Gillepsie
    - Glenn McGrath
    - Muralitharan
    Hang on. Are you Australian?
    If you were that old, and that kind, and the very last of your kind, you couldn't just stand back and watch children cry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harsh.skm View Post
    Hang on. Are you Australian?
    Yep. What's your point? That there are a lot of Australians in my team?

    Guess that happens when Australia are considered one of the greatest teams of all time in that particular decade.

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    You know, winning 79 tests out of 118 and only losing 18 of them....

    Would you change something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    His peak was nowhere near long enough though to oust Kallis for me.
    Ian Bell had a greater two year peak than Kevin Pietersen has ever had. Still doesn't mean he's been better in the last eight years.

    There's no spin you can put on it to make Flintoff a better option than Kallis. It just isn't the case.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    This English top three are cornflakes. They're not the most exciting thing out but they're pretty effective. Then the middle order are the sugar. Would be too much on their own but added to the cornflakes they add some much needed interest

    When KP returns he will be the banana..

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    Flintoff electrified the atmosphere in cricket grounds and changed the course of matches - he's got to be a shoo-in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    Ian Bell had a greater two year peak than Kevin Pietersen has ever had. Still doesn't mean he's been better in the last eight years.

    There's no spin you can put on it to make Flintoff a better option than Kallis. It just isn't the case.
    Kallis failed repeatedly against the greatest side of his era.

    He's also ****ing boring to watch.

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    Freddie>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kallis
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    Watson > Kallis > Cairns > Flintoff > Oram

    Discuss.
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    Jeets doesn't really deserve to be bowling.
    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Well yeah Tendy is probably better than Bradman, but Bradman was 70 years ago, if he grew up in the modern era he'd still easily be the best. Though he wasn't, can understand the argument for Tendy even though I don't agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    - Matthew Hayden
    - Graham Smith
    - Ricky Ponting
    - Jaques Kallis
    - Brian Lara
    - Mohammed Yousuf
    - Adam Gilchrist
    - Shane Warne
    - Jason Gillepsie
    - Glenn McGrath
    - Muralitharan
    The selection of Gillespie is pretty close to the money because the bowling trio of McGrath-Warne-Gilliespie gained more wickets than any other trio in the history of cricket.

    However,

    Lee brought in a much higher match-winning quality and raised the Warne/McGrath win % by well over 10% to an incredible 79%. That is 4 out of 5 Tests. Lee had the best strike rate amongst all three. These three captured over 75% of all team wickets.

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    The most successful trio of all time is the one of Warne, McGrath and Lee, even if the other trio of Warne, McGrath and Gillespie gathered more wickets. Probably the next best bowling trio honour should be given to the current English trio of Anderson, Broad and Swann. I would rate Holding, Garner and Marshall next. Wasim, Waqar and Mushtaq would be competing for these two places.

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    Last edited by watson; 23-07-2013 at 03:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Watson > Kallis > Cairns > Flintoff > Oram

    Discuss.
    You need to stay off the sauce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Watson > Kallis > Cairns > Flintoff > Oram

    Discuss.
    Nice trolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Watson > Kallis > Cairns > Flintoff > Oram

    Discuss.
    Nice ironic touch too. But as they say, "Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit".
    Last edited by watson; 23-07-2013 at 04:18 PM.

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