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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sean View Post
    He was actually two years younger than The Don, but was plagued by ill-health and injury so there was never any realistic chance of him playing on after the war.

    I’ve just read something I'd never seen before about the reaction to his tragically premature death:

    “News of McCabe’s death was made public while Australia and England were playing in the Fifth Test at The Oval. After the death was announced over the public address system, the crowd spontaneously stood up and took off their hats, and did the players, and they observed a self-initiated moment of silence.”

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    This is a terrific effort, DOG. Congratulations on it. Very thought provoking.

    Also happy to see Macartney in the list. His "Always try to hit the first ball back at the bowler's head - they don't like it, it rattles them" advice to Fingleton is a beauty, as was his scoring a ton in a session before lunch, then chnging bats, selecting the heaviest available and telling team mates "I'm going to have a hit now". WAFG he must have been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    He took is own life didn't he?
    A simple but tragic accident....

    McCabe died of a skull fracture after falling from a cliff at his home in Mosman, New South Wales after attempting to dispose of a dead possum. He had earlier told Dwyer of his plan to clean out his backyard, and was told to rest, but did so anyway, falling down and rolling off the steep slope in his backyard and over the ledge of the cliff abutting the rear of his house. There was innuendo that McCabe had actually committed suicide, with O'Reilly musing "He had despatched the possum, but had gone overboard with it!". However, the coroner ruled that the death was accidental and his family strongly denied that he had chosen to end his life. The coroner’s investigation noted that McCabe’s hands had tufts of ripped grass in them, indicating that he had tried to grab onto vegetation in a vain attempt to stop his fall.

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    Len Hutton - Jack Hobbs - Ted Dexter - David Gower - Walter Hammond - Frank Woolley - Ian Botham - Alan Knott - Hedley Verity - John Snow - Fred Trueman

    Victor Trumper - Bill Lawry - Don Bradman - Greg Chappell - Allan Border - Keith Miller - Monty Noble - Don Tallon - Shane Warne - Dennis Lillee - Glenn McGrath

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    Thanks for that.


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    60. Graham Thorpe (England) (1993-2005)

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    Career Average: 44.66
    Adjusted career average: 45.76
    Adjusted away average: 46.55
    Adjusted top-opposition average: 44.36
    Top Tier centuries: 3
    Second tier centuries: 7
    Third tier centuries: 4
    Significant innings: 33
    Significant innings per match: 0.33
    Great innings: 3
    Innings worth average: 3.20

    25 Test peak adjusted average: 57.36
    50 Test peak adjusted average: 47.09


    Quality Points: 526
    Career Points: 92
    Peak Points: 115
    TOTAL POINTS: 733



    59. VVS Laxman (India) (1996-2012)

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    Career Average: 45.97
    Adjusted career average: 43.18
    Adjusted away average: 40.05
    Adjusted top-opposition average: 42.36
    Top Tier centuries: 7 (rank 9=)
    Second tier centuries: 1
    Third tier centuries: 4
    Significant innings: 44
    Significant innings per match: 0.33
    Great innings: 8 (rank 4)
    Innings worth average: 3.17

    25 Test peak adjusted average: 56.06
    50 Test peak adjusted average: 49.48


    Quality Points: 494
    Career Points: 128
    Peak Points: 111
    TOTAL POINTS: 734




    58. Justin Langer (Australia) (1993-2007)

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    Career Average: 45.27
    Adjusted career average: 42.93
    Adjusted away average: 40.13
    Adjusted top-opposition average: 42.28
    Top Tier centuries: 2
    Second tier centuries: 7
    Third tier centuries: 12
    Significant innings: 43
    Significant innings per match: 0.41
    Great innings: 5
    Innings worth average: 2.84

    25 Test peak adjusted average: 55.09
    50 Test peak adjusted average: 49.20


    Quality Points: 506
    Career Points: 107
    Peak Points: 122
    TOTAL POINTS: 735




    57. Kevin Pietersen (England) (2005-present day)

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    Career Average: 49.01
    Adjusted career average: 45.55
    Adjusted away average: 40.24
    Adjusted top-opposition average: 44.94
    Top Tier centuries: 5
    Second tier centuries: 7
    Third tier centuries: 7
    Significant innings: 30
    Significant innings per match: 0.32
    Great innings: 5
    Innings worth average: 3.39

    25 Test peak adjusted average: 53.31
    50 Test peak adjusted average: 48.65


    Quality Points: 539
    Career Points: 86
    Peak Points: 111
    TOTAL POINTS: 736


    * Before the start of the Ashes.




    56. Bruce Mitchell (South Africa) (1929-1949)

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    Career Average: 48.88
    Adjusted career average: 48.24
    Adjusted away average: 48.50
    Adjusted top-opposition average: 45.97
    Top Tier centuries: 0
    Second tier centuries: 4
    Third tier centuries: 3
    Significant innings: 13
    Significant innings per match: 0.31
    Great innings: 2
    Innings worth average: 3.20

    25 Test peak adjusted average: 53.63


    Quality Points: 540
    Career Points: 72
    Peak Points: 124
    TOTAL POINTS: 736
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    Greatest Ever Test XI: JB Hobbs, L Hutton, DG Bradman (c), IVA Richards, BC Lara, GS Sobers, AC Gilchrist (wk), Imran Khan, RJ Hadlee, MD Marshall, SK Warne 12th man: M Muralitharan


    Favorite XI: WG Grace, VT Trumper, IVA Richards, DCS Compton, FMM Worrell (c), AC Gilchrist (wk), CL Cairns, SK Warne, FS Trueman, SE Bond, T Richardson 12th man: H Larwood

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    7 top tier centuries and 8 great innings for VVS Laxman!

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    VVS Laxman great innings:

    167 vs. Australia at Sydney 2000 (19.76)
    59 vs. Australia at Kolkata 2001 (15.25)
    281 vs. Australia at Kolkata 2001 (23.09)
    66 vs. Australia at Chennai 2001 (14.05)
    89 vs. South Africa at Port Elizabeth 2001 (14.10)
    103* vs. Sri Lanka at Colombo 2010 (13.59)
    73* vs. Australia at Mohali 2010 (17.04)
    96 vs. South Africa at Durban 2010 (15.70)


    Kevin Pietersen great innings:

    158 vs. Australia at The Oval 2005 (16.14)
    142 vs. Sri Lanka at Birmingham 2006 (15.82)
    129 vs. New Zealand at Napier 2008 (16.63)
    202* vs. India at Lord's 2011 (13.48)
    186 vs. India at Mumbai 2012 (13.71)
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    Awesome stuff DoG. When did you stop calculating KP's record? Also just with Bruce Mitchell you've got him as an Aussie.

    It sort of feels as though the more recent players are being rated slightly higher than I expected mainly due to longevity and a higher number in the career points category. This bodes well for the likes of Border, SWaugh, Tendulkar etc.
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    Over 0.2: Putland to Nevill, OUT, no run, full ball swings in late to crash into his pads. Nevill is almost falling over trying to get bat on it but can't. Huge shout for LBW and Umpire Martell eventually raises the finger! P.Nevill - lbw b:Putland 0 (1 ball, 1 minute).

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    Delighted to see Graham Thorpe there - how much we could do with his like these days - I always wonder how good he might have been if he hadn't spent half his career being a walking wicket after an interval had broken his concentration, especially when he was not out overnight -the young Thorpe was bloody hopeless in that scenario!

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    Nice to see Langer this high. K.P and Mitchell a bit lower than I expected. K.P still has time to rise up the rankings though.

    Great job DOG, keep them coming.
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    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Cameron+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Equilibrium View Post
    Amazing! 8 great innings for VVS
    The reason why I rate these two highly is pretty clear from this... theyre wildly inconsistent but just look at those performances... geniuses both of them
    I'm actually surprised there weren't more tbh. I expected the 60-odd he got at Mumbai 2004 on a ridiculous pitch and Pietersen's hundred in Sri Lanka last year to be in there. How much were they rated, incidentally?
    9.81 for Laxman's 69 at Mumbai (lack of runs made with lower order being the reason why this isn't nearer the 12.50 benchmark for a great innings.
    10.84 for Pietersen in Sri Lanka last year. Sri Lanka at the moment are a third-tier opposition, hence the lower rating.

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    Three great middle-order players from days of yore sandwiched between two modern batting giants.

    55. Michael Hussey (Australia) (2005-2013)

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    Career Average: 51.52
    Adjusted career average: 46.47
    Adjusted away average: 38.06
    Adjusted top-opposition average: 44.56
    Top Tier centuries: 4
    Second tier centuries: 4
    Third tier centuries: 8
    Significant innings: 39
    Significant innings per match: 0.49 (rank 5)
    Great innings: 2
    Innings worth average: 3.36

    25 Test peak adjusted average: 62.16
    50 Test peak adjusted average: 47.38


    Quality Points: 548
    Career Points: 67
    Peak Points: 123
    TOTAL POINTS: 738




    54. Colin Cowdrey (England) (1954-1975)

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    Career Average: 44.06
    Adjusted career average: 44.49
    Adjusted away average: 46.38
    Adjusted top-opposition average: 40.56
    Top Tier centuries: 2
    Second tier centuries: 5
    Third tier centuries: 10
    Significant innings: 41
    Significant innings per match: 0.36
    Great innings: 2
    Innings worth average: 3.14

    25 Test peak adjusted average: 59.67
    50 Test peak adjusted average: 51.06


    Quality Points: 518
    Career Points: 98
    Peak Points: 123
    TOTAL POINTS: 738





    53. Aubrey Faulkner (South Africa) (1906-1924)

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    Career Average: 40.79
    Adjusted career average: 49.68
    Adjusted away average: 47.07
    Adjusted top-opposition average: 48.56
    Top Tier centuries: 0
    Second tier centuries: 4
    Third tier centuries: 0
    Significant innings: 10
    Significant innings per match: 0.40
    Great innings: 1
    Innings worth average: 3.74


    Quality Points: 595
    Career Points: 59
    Peak Points: 85
    TOTAL POINTS: 739





    52. Clem Hill (Australia) (1896-1912)

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    Career Average: 39.21
    Adjusted career average: 47.03
    Adjusted away average: 45.48
    Adjusted top-opposition average: 38.54
    Top Tier centuries: 0
    Second tier centuries: 1
    Third tier centuries: 3
    Significant innings: 20
    Significant innings per match: 0.41
    Great innings: 2
    Innings worth average: 3.21

    25 Test peak adjusted average: 60.81


    Quality Points: 553
    Career Points: 60
    Peak Points: 130
    TOTAL POINTS: 744





    51. Alastair Cook (England) (2006-present day)

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    Career Average: 49.17
    Adjusted career average: 44.60
    Adjusted away average: 49.44
    Adjusted top-opposition average: 42.05
    Top Tier centuries: 4
    Second tier centuries: 8
    Third tier centuries: 5
    Significant innings: 34
    Significant innings per match: 0.37
    Great innings: 2
    Innings worth average: 2.98

    25 Test peak adjusted average: 60.78
    50 Test peak adjusted average: 50.77


    Quality Points: 535
    Career Points: 86
    Peak Points: 123
    TOTAL POINTS: 744

    * correct before the beginning of the current Ashes series.

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    Michael Hussey great innings:
    134* vs. Pakistan at Sydney 2010 (15.66)
    195 vs. England at Brisbane 2010 (12.97)

    Alastair Cook great innings:
    294 vs. India at Birmingham 2011 (13.57)
    176 vs. India at Ahmedabad 2012 (12.90)

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    Presumably Cowdrey's great innings were the 102 at the MCG in 54-55 and his stand with May vs Ramadhin?

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    Interesting that Clem's 'innings worth' is quite a bit higher than the other four.

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