Who should open with astle? And your NZ team?

Kiwi · 30-05-2002, 11:34 PM

My thoughts are James Marshell, Fleming or Lou vincent.

James · 31-05-2002, 12:33 AM

Fleming has been tired time and time again and failed so I wouldn't consider him.

It's really hard to try and think of someone. Maybe Chris Nevin again :I

Kiwi · 31-05-2002, 01:23 PM

I don't think nevin is the number 1 wicketkeeper in New Zealand though.. I think lou vincent will keep in the world cup

lord_of_darkness · 31-05-2002, 03:51 PM

good to see here posting tamara .. keep going

Paul · 01-06-2002, 09:18 AM

What's happened to Matt Horne?

Lachman Raja · 01-06-2002, 01:20 PM

Matt Horne. I think he has been tried so many times before. When he is on form that is fine but he is a bit like Matt Bell. on form for one season and ten back off again.

lord_of_darkness · 01-06-2002, 02:43 PM

Nah matt horne isint the greatest opener , vincent can keep but cant bat well i reckon nevin should bat number three and Flemming go number 2 nad maybe Lou Open

Kimbo · 02-06-2002, 01:46 PM

Nevin is a **** keeper- hes stuffed up too many times, we can't afford to have those chances blundered. Matt Horne looked really good opening in one dayers here in provincial cricket, when he decides to go after the ball, he really goes after it!
I reckon Lou will be alright, hes got the right attitude, with experience he will get a lot better.
What about Doull?!!! Did anyone see him open for ND, hes not a bad slogger... but seriously, the nz selectors have got a few problems.

lord_of_darkness · 02-06-2002, 05:29 PM

Nevin isint that bad a keeper and is he is a way better Batsmen that Parore was , i mean parore is good but u cant expect him to open and hit all the tim

Kimbo · 02-06-2002, 05:56 PM

Yea, but parore is gone, anyway, i am biased cos i was talking to all these people that hate him, apparently hes a real dick and he smokes and stuff, i really don't think top class athletes should smoke.

lord_of_darkness · 03-06-2002, 01:39 AM

he smokes???

lol reducing his career life

okay that isint good , i hate people who smoke and play cricket ?

whoa do you knw how many times a day

Kimbo · 03-06-2002, 01:57 AM

nah i dont, but people i was talking to just said that they saw him smoke- it changes how you see people eh

lord_of_darkness · 03-06-2002, 02:14 AM

lol i wasnt talking about u

well most players Drink too ? that is bad too then isint it ?

So is it actually proved that he smokes ? i mean a people seeing him could be a rumor ?

Tim · 03-06-2002, 05:00 AM

Horne should not even be near the NZ team as far as ODIs are concerned. They are better off taking Brendon McCullum over and giving him experience like they are with Butler rather than Horne wasting time with his rather poor technique.

I think with the team in the West Indies, they should open with Nevin, he actually hasn't done too badly recently, although yes his keeping is not the best.

The other option is to let Vincent open & keep, I think he would make a good one day keeper.

Tim · 03-06-2002, 05:05 AM

Im concerned that NZ is going down this track of opening the batting with bowlers who slog it like Doull or Cunis has for their respective provinces.

This is one of the reasons why a country can perform badly on the international stage because when it comes down to selecting a team, provinces have been mucking around with sloggers rather than proper openers.

NZ cricket should set out some rules to the Provinces & make sure their tactics are not so circus like.

30-05-2002, 11:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
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02-06-2002, 01:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Kimbo International Debutant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: london Posts: 2,835	Nevin is a **** keeper- hes stuffed up too many times, we can't afford to have those chances blundered. Matt Horne looked really good opening in one dayers here in provincial cricket, when he decides to go after the ball, he really goes after it! I reckon Lou will be alright, hes got the right attitude, with experience he will get a lot better. What about Doull?!!! Did anyone see him open for ND, hes not a bad slogger... but seriously, the nz selectors have got a few problems. __________________ life's a gift thats why they call it the present

31-05-2002, 01:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
Kiwi State Vice-Captain Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,079	I don't think nevin is the number 1 wicketkeeper in New Zealand though.. I think lou vincent will keep in the world cup

01-06-2002, 01:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
Lachman Raja Cricket Spectator Join Date: May 2002 Location: india Posts: 2	Matt Horne. I think he has been tried so many times before. When he is on form that is fine but he is a bit like Matt Bell. on form for one season and ten back off again.

01-06-2002, 02:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
lord_of_darkness Cricket Web XI Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland , New Zealand Posts: 13,252	Nah matt horne isint the greatest opener , vincent can keep but cant bat well i reckon nevin should bat number three and Flemming go number 2 nad maybe Lou Open

02-06-2002, 05:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
lord_of_darkness Cricket Web XI Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland , New Zealand Posts: 13,252	Nevin isint that bad a keeper and is he is a way better Batsmen that Parore was , i mean parore is good but u cant expect him to open and hit all the tim

02-06-2002, 05:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
Kimbo International Debutant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: london Posts: 2,835	Yea, but parore is gone, anyway, i am biased cos i was talking to all these people that hate him, apparently hes a real dick and he smokes and stuff, i really don't think top class athletes should smoke.

03-06-2002, 01:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
lord_of_darkness Cricket Web XI Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland , New Zealand Posts: 13,252	he smokes??? lol reducing his career life okay that isint good , i hate people who smoke and play cricket ? whoa do you knw how many times a day

03-06-2002, 01:57 AM	#12 (permalink)
Kimbo International Debutant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: london Posts: 2,835	nah i dont, but people i was talking to just said that they saw him smoke- it changes how you see people eh

03-06-2002, 02:14 AM	#13 (permalink)
lord_of_darkness Cricket Web XI Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland , New Zealand Posts: 13,252	lol i wasnt talking about u well most players Drink too ? that is bad too then isint it ? So is it actually proved that he smokes ? i mean a people seeing him could be a rumor ?

03-06-2002, 05:00 AM	#14 (permalink)
Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	Horne should not even be near the NZ team as far as ODIs are concerned. They are better off taking Brendon McCullum over and giving him experience like they are with Butler rather than Horne wasting time with his rather poor technique. I think with the team in the West Indies, they should open with Nevin, he actually hasn't done too badly recently, although yes his keeping is not the best. The other option is to let Vincent open & keep, I think he would make a good one day keeper.

03-06-2002, 05:05 AM	#15 (permalink)
Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	Im concerned that NZ is going down this track of opening the batting with bowlers who slog it like Doull or Cunis has for their respective provinces. This is one of the reasons why a country can perform badly on the international stage because when it comes down to selecting a team, provinces have been mucking around with sloggers rather than proper openers. NZ cricket should set out some rules to the Provinces & make sure their tactics are not so circus like.

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