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    Ah.. I go off CW for a month, and **** hits the fan

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    But good to see that Cricinfo authors and mods are taking their loyalty to Tendulkar fans so seriously. Heil Sachin!

    On a side note, apologies to CW and especially Nufan for dropping out of the Sheep Thread without a word. Long trip. Old friends. No internet. Just good old fashioned stuff
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    Viv Richards didn't like leg spinners, although a demolisher of pace bowling.

    Tendulkar has no documented technical weakness, but he has a controlled aggression and wouldn't exactly go nuts after bowlers like Viv and Lara did in their primes.

    Dravid hated left armers, Laxman had no idea against inswing.

    Waugh brothers remained illiterate in the education of hooking and pulling, even Ajinkya Rahane has a better hook shot.

    In short, I'm saying that the status of "the greatest batsman" DOES NOT EXIST. Every batsman around the world has weakness which could be a strength for the other batsman and vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkut View Post
    Waugh brothers remained illiterate in the education of hooking and pulling, even Ajinkya Rahane has a better hook shot.
    Steve Waugh could play the shot, he just opted not to because he felt it was too risky. And Mark frustrated the WI quicks by backing away and uppercutting, which was more effective because they didn't have a man out at third man for the catch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkut View Post
    In short, I'm saying that the status of "the greatest batsman" DOES NOT EXIST. Every batsman around the world has weakness which could be a strength for the other batsman and vice versa.
    I think by your criteria "The Best Batsman" does not exist. But the greatest does. To your left.
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    lol at the idea of tendulkar having no documented technical weakness
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    Thou shalt not question the staus of Bradman. Amen.

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    Thou shalt not question the staus of Bradman. Amen.

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    Thought this thread would have descended into a slanging match by now. Still reckon it will.

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    Thought this thread would have descended into a slanging match by now. Still reckon it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jan View Post
    Thou shalt not question the staus of Bradman. Amen.

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    ATG World XI
    1. J.B Hobbs 2. H. Sutcliffe 3. D.G Bradman 4. W.R Hammond 5. G.S Sobers 6. M.J Procter 7. A.C Gilchrist 8. M.D Marshall 9. S.K Warne 10. M. Muralitharan 11. G.D McGrath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Wright View Post
    ...he never played on spinning wickets in India, pacey pitches in the West Indies or raging seamers in New Zealand.
    Yep, our raging seamers would have taken him down a peg or two. Daryl Tuffy would have torn him a new one.

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    Tendulkar has no documented technical weakness
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Wright View Post
    ...he never played on spinning wickets in India, pacey pitches in the West Indies or raging seamers in New Zealand.
    This is one of the numerous misconceptions about Bradman and his era. The Australian wickets, pre war atleast, were fast. Modern WI pitches have been slow though that has been offset by some truly awful pitches in some cases.

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    Four things that Bradman fans do

    People say stats alone cannot decide the greatness of a player, but the only thing which they use to prove Bradman's greatness is his stats(and a few stories of course, but the only valid point they have is his stats).

    Performance of a player against the minnows is never taken seriously, but in Bradman's case, they do take it very very seriously, his performance against the three hopeless minnows(out of the 4 inferior teams he played against) should never ever be questioned

    Never agree that Bradman played on the flattest decks ever and the only difficulty in his time were the sticky wickets where he failed.

    And if someone questions Bradman's greatness, you label him a Tendulkar fan even if his not and start taking the discussion off topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karan316 View Post
    Four things that Bradman fans do

    People say stats alone cannot decide the greatness of a player, but the only thing which they use to prove Bradman's greatness is his stats(and a few stories of course, but the only valid point they have is his stats).

    Performance of a player against the minnows is never taken seriously, but in Bradman's case, they do take it very very seriously, his performance against the three hopeless minnows(out of the 4 inferior teams he played against) should never ever be questioned

    Never agree that Bradman played on the flattest decks ever and the only difficulty in his time were the sticky wickets where he failed.

    And if someone questions Bradman's greatness, you label him a Tendulkar fan even if his not and start taking the discussion off topic.
    Playing on flat decks doesn't explain Bradman's average, as the greatest batsman of the era returned numbers consistent with great batsmen of every other era.

    I don't see how you can be so flippant in dismissing statistics either given that Bradman dominates every statistical category you can think of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeGee View Post
    Yep, our raging seamers would have taken him down a peg or two. Daryl Tuffy would have torn him a new one.



    I can send you the document if you've lost it.
    Funny you should mention it considering how Tendulkar and friends went in 2002 down here.

    Instead of crying about the pitches they would have done well to look in the mirror.
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    Well yeah Tendy is probably better than Bradman, but Bradman was 70 years ago, if he grew up in the modern era he'd still easily be the best. Though he wasn't, can understand the argument for Tendy even though I don't agree.
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