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    Craigchopa also has a crazy good record for someone of his age and experience. He batted 6-7 a bit last year though didn't he?
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    Well yeah Tendy is probably better than Bradman, but Bradman was 70 years ago, if he grew up in the modern era he'd still easily be the best. Though he wasn't, can understand the argument for Tendy even though I don't agree.
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    Yeah, in the early rounds, then No. 4.
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    5 wickets in the first innings, 1 in the second. Yup, Dan is definitely back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kippax View Post
    "I used to look at Vaughn Johnson as a courageous sort of person, but I don't look at him that way any more, as far as cricket's concerned. He had four fit bowlers and a spinner and just he didn't back his bowlers. He gave up after day 2."

    "Perfect pitch for Jesse. We dropped him on 16, down on confidence in the second dig, it could've been a terrible trip for him".

    "[New Zealand] can't play spin mate. Everyone around town says it's mental, I say it's technical."

    - Siddons
    Radio interview?

    Mr Siddons seems to forget his paymasters are NZ Cricket, and his interests are invested not only in seeing Wellington win but contributing to our national game as a whole.

    Demeaning Jesse's achievement, decrying how poor we are at playing spin (no matter how true - I take it his players are different), slating a coach for batting on with an 'A' level bowling line-up on a road, seemingly taking joy from the failures of the national side (and claiming personal glory from Bangladesh's performances, despite how miserly the improvement made during his tenure)...pretty average behaviour.
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    Mr Siddons also forgets his team are ****

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    Tbf to Siddons he did add that "our players" are no exception to struggling with spin (this was on Wellington radio).

    Kippax will vouch for the fact he is ripping off the weatherboards and making Papps and now Pollard into structurally different players, which isn't the quick and sugary way to a domestic title by any means. And he was blunt with Hesson about Ronchi's unsuitable technique and temperament for opening these days.

    Whether you rate Tamim or not, there's his plaudits -

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    The batsman claimed that he had gained a 'special trust' with Siddons, something that had been built during the Australian's three-year stint with Bangladesh.

    “Ex-cricketers in Bangladesh are obviously capable of addressing my mistakes. However, I think every cricketer has a coach whom they trust and for me that's Jamie,” said Tamim.

    The opener stated that he had spent long hours in the nets with Siddons, the effect of which was felt towards the end of his spell. “I think in the last couple of matches I realised what I was doing wrong and I batted with a mixed technique, which included things from the past and the newer lessons. Its something that I can change in time,” said the 23-year-old.

    Describing one such problem that bothered the left-hander, he said, “In 2010, I used to have one short foot movement. But at the moment I have two-three foot movements. This was just one of the problems that I worked on. I'll work on it whenever I find a gap.”

    Apart from working on his batting technique, Tamim also relished the experience of playing in a 'more challenging' cricketing atmosphere. “Domestic cricket there [in New Zealand] is a lot more serious. For instance, the kind of planning, discussions and meetings that we had before the matches, resembled the ones that I attended before an international match,” said Tamim.

    “Every game is recorded and that gave me an opportunity to have a look at my opponents. I actually didn't know any bowler there when I reached and that helped me a lot,” he added.

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    Glad to see that McIntosh is taking young Raval under his wing and is tutoring him in the ways of the wide brimmed floppy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveNZ View Post
    slating a coach for batting on with an 'A' level bowling line-up on a road
    It was VJ's choice to play Bradley Scott and that left-armer Soper who's never swung a ball back in in his life though, rather than get some red ball overs into Duffy.

    Heaven forbid an injury to Duffy with an HRV campaign to worship at the altar of, "Champions League's in South Africa next year" to boot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kippax View Post
    It was VJ's choice to play Bradley Scott and that left-armer Soper who's never swung a ball back in in his life though, rather than get some red ball overs into Duffy.

    Heaven forbid an injury to Duffy with an HRV campaign to worship at the altar of, "Champions League's in South Africa next year" to boot.
    It's like Johnson's Otago have quickly become Strang's Auckland after a single taste CLT20 cash.

    I don't want him to grind 19 year old Duffy into the ground with a full season in all forms. But to rest both McMillan and and Duffy stinks a bit, with Wagner overseas - that is the time not to rotate them out.

    Maybe NZC and the Players Association can work a deal where some of that CL cash gets split into prize money for the Plunket Shield and Ford Trophy winners as well.

    I think some of it is split already to the 6 associations, not all to the Volts and their players.

    Was it 200k this year?

    How about 50% split to the HRV champs players, 50% to the 6 Associations, 25% to Plunket champs players, 25% to Ford Trophy champs players. Etc, or close to ...

    Even up the incentives a little bit. I don't want to start hating Otago, too many players I like in their squad.
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    Anyway, fairly cautious start by at least 2 of the teams to Plunket Shield. Early season conservatism? Or change of mindset?

    I can't believe how 'good' early season wickets are. My lawn is still almost a quagmire yet the Basin could have probably lasted 7 days before a result

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    Yeah, you know how after a footy match there's the obligatory footage of the players doing gentle strides down the length of a pool? That's the Plunket Shield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immenso View Post
    Anyway, fairly cautious start by at least 2 of the teams to Plunket Shield. Early season conservatism? Or change of mindset?

    I can't believe how 'good' early season wickets are. My lawn is still almost a quagmire yet the Basin could have probably lasted 7 days before a result
    I think also it is a result of alot of big scores been chased down last season in the forth innings for the loss of not many.

    It is good that our pitches are not minefields on day 1 but we really need to do something about the lack of deteriation

    Our two premier spinners were toothless on a last day wicket

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immenso View Post
    It's like Johnson's Otago have quickly become Strang's Auckland after a single taste CLT20 cash.

    I don't want him to grind 19 year old Duffy into the ground with a full season in all forms. But to rest both McMillan and and Duffy stinks a bit, with Wagner overseas - that is the time not to rotate them out.
    If Duffy becomes a t20 specialist I will strangle Johnson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kippax View Post
    It was VJ's choice to play Bradley Scott and that left-armer Soper who's never swung a ball back in in his life though, rather than get some red ball overs into Duffy.

    Heaven forbid an injury to Duffy with an HRV campaign to worship at the altar of, "Champions League's in South Africa next year" to boot.
    It was, and I'd predict it had something to do with Duffy's hammie that packed his bags from the CL. Only a guess.

    There has been some conservatism but you wouldn't say either Otago or Auckland were in imperious positions and dropped their nerve when victory was at least an even-money bet. At the end of the day, everyone's a contender at this early stage - you drop points to someone in the pursuit of your own, you risk that being the difference at the pointy end. Auckland risked playing with their order and giving ND early momentum, with a spinner who for all of his noted 4th innings woes, was coming off a 5-for and there was another leggie at the other end. Otago had a barely A standard line-up on a road against a side with enough quality to get the job done - albeit under the disadvantage of playing under the banner 'Wellington'.



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