**Official** New Zealand Domestic Season 2013/2014

[Kippax]

Ross Taylor's XI

Guptill
Raval
Williamson
Taylor (c)
Ryder
Carlchopa
Watling +
Bracewell
Nethula
Milne
Wheeler

Rest of squad: Young, Papps, Franklin, Small, Ajaz Patel.

Coach: Martin Crowe


Brendon McCullum's QualityNZ XI, powered by CricHQ
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Rutherford
Fulton
Latham
Brownlie
Ronchi +
McCullum (c)
Anderson
Vettori
Wagner
Southee
Boult

Rest of squad: Devcich, Broom, Munro, Dark Guptill, Bartin, NcCullum, Mills, Gillespie, Neesham, McClenaghan

Coach: Mike Hesson

 

[hendrix]

I refuse to give McCullum **** for business ventures. This is so much better than a) becoming a ****ty commentator after retirement or b) setting up a finance company.

 

[Flem274*]

How did you even decide half of those loyalties?

Ryder should make the Ross XI. McClenaghan seems closer to Taylor than McCullum in development and personality.

 

[Kippax]

It's springtime and the smell of grass clippings is in the air Flem, why are you asking me to dredge this up.

Okay, we've all seen it's pretty awkward between Brownlie and Ross in the slips, Guptill and KW and the only ones who greet him with genuine enthusiasm. Everyone on CW assumed Kane was the young player training the house down who was sick of getting **** for it from senior players.

 

[Flem274*]

Will lol so hard if that young player doesn't turn out to be KW.

I still can't believe that incident if it's true. Giving players **** for training hard should be an automatic dropping. It probably would be in any other New Zealand sports team.

 

[Kippax]

Ryder should make the Ross XI. McClenaghan seems closer to Taylor than McCullum in development and personality.

Nah Mitch and JimmyGS I see as very entrepreneurial and gumption-orientated cricketers, prefer McHesson's pro-business regime.

 

[Flem274*]

Franklin, Papps, Watling, Fulton, Boult? Be honest, how long and often do you watch players personalities compared to the game and how long have you been thinking about this?

 

[Kippax]

Well Franklin's been utterly shafted by McHesson, according to Siddons at least. Papps dominated the Ford Trophy and wasn't given the chance to go and tuck into India A's pies like Devcich was. Ross wanted to build for the future with younger players and has spoken about a desire to get back to some green wickets in NZ, terrible news for Fulton.

 

[Kippax]

Well Franklin's been utterly shafted by McHesson, according to Siddons at least

"Yea we agree, Franklin is one of your very best, contract going to Munro was a joke" - Guyana Amazon Warriors kids.

 

[Prince EWS]

Fulton's definitely a McHesson player Phlegm. On top of what Kippax said about how his likely disdain towards some of Taylor's ideas.. he came in on the back of McCullum taking over captaincy, benefited greatly from his decision to bat in the middle order and was publicly backed by Hesson as someone who could bat anywhere in the top six.

 

[Flem274*]

Haha true that, though I don't remember many public statements at all refuting Taylor ideas. I'm guessing it was Taylor's backing of developing more young openers in domestic and test cricket rather than tried and tested failures over and over that got Fulton's back up?

 

[Flem274*]

Who would win conference cricket if they brought it back?

NORTHERN CONFERENCE

Martin GUPTILL
Daniel FLYNN
Kane WILLIAMSON (c)
Daryl MITCHELL or Anaru KITCHEN
Bradley-John WATLING (wk)
Corey ANDERSON (5)
Colin MUNRO (6)
Daniel VETTORI (4)
Tim SOUTHEE (1)
Trent BOULT (2)
Mitchell McCLENAGHAN (3)

Biting at their heels: Jeet RAVAL, Craig CACHOPA and unfortunately the great Anton DEVCICH. Gareth HOPKINS will be the reserve wicketkeeper if injury strikes.

CENTRAL CONFERENCE

Jamie HOW
Michael PAPPS
Carl CACHOPA
Ross TAYLOR (c)
James FRANKLIN (5)
Luke WOODCOCK (6)
Luke RONCHI (wk)
Doug BRACEWELL (3)
Adam MILNE (1)
Jeetan PATEL (4)
Mark GILLESPIE (2)

Reserves for when Franklin, Papps and Woodcock inevitably get eaten alive: William YOUNG, Greg HAY, Josh BRODIE (not that it will make much difference except the techniques will look prettier during their short stays). Ben WHEELER and Brent ARNEL will be waiting in the wings for injury.

SOUTHERN CONFERENCE

Hamish RUTHERFORD
Peter FULTON
Neil BROOM
Dean BROWNLIE
Jesse RYDER
Brendon McCULLUM (c)
Tom LATHAM (wk)
Todd ASTLE (4)
Neil WAGNER (1)
Ian BUTLER (3)
Matt HENRY (2)

This would be between North and South. Central have the second best attack but the worst batting by far even with the best batsman in the country by a distance on their side.

 

[Kippax]

This would be between North and South. Central have the second best attack but the worst batting by far even with the best batsman in the country by a distance on their side.

Phlegm & Kippax cheering the first-class team which is ****ed right off the bat....ironic. Make it Conference of Origin so we get Ryder at least.

They used to tinker around with the sides to balance them iirc, I remember seeing Craig McMillan played for Central. Such was the batting strength that Canterbury used to give the nation, before their cricket culture got so "gutted" that they now apparently need Nicol, Brownlie and Keen.

 

[Flem274*]

STATE OF ORIGIN

NORTHERN CONFERENCE

Martin GUPTILL
Daniel FLYNN
Kane WILLIAMSON (c)
Carl CACHOPA
Anaru KITCHEN
Daryl MITCHELL
Bradley-John WATLING (wk)
Daniel VETTORI (4)
Tim SOUTHEE (1)
Ian BUTLER (3)
Trent BOULT (2)

CENTRAL CONFERENCE

Jamie HOW
Josh BRODIE
Stephen MURDOCH
Ross TAYLOR (c)
Jesse RYDER
James FRANKLIN
Ben SMITH (wk)
Doug BRACEWELL (3)
Adam MILNE (1)
Jeetan PATEL (4)
Mark GILLESPIE (2)

SOUTHERN CONFERENCE

Hamish RUTHERFORD
Peter FULTON
Aaron REDMOND
Neil BROOM
Brendon McCULLUM (c)
Tom LATHAM (wk)
Corey ANDERSON (5)
Todd ASTLE (4)
Matt HENRY (1)
Hamish BENNETT (3)
Ryan McCONE or Jacob DUFFY or Willie LONSDALE (2)

Well we still look terrible but we took Souths down with us a bit.

 

[Flem274*]

Funny you raise Canterbury again Lets look at a Canterbury state of origin XI

Peter FULTON (c)
Michael PAPPS
Shanan STEWART
Henry NICHOLLS
Tom LATHAM (wk)
Corey ANDERSON (6)
Andrew ELLIS (5)
Todd ASTLE (4)
Matt HENRY (1)
Ryan McCONE (2)
Hamish BENNETT (3)

Would you like gravy with your duck?

 

[Kippax]

Yeah I was hoping for some Fleming/McCaw charismatic batting and conscious competence, and an attack of Hadlee fanboys who hit the vault every night and make notes on their future adversaries.

Suffice to say, I'm gutted.

 

[Kippax]

Franklin, Papps, Watling, Fulton, Boult? Be honest, how long and often do you watch players personalities compared to the game and how long have you been thinking about this?

Why would you ask about Watling?

No Watling

Up until that England series he had been one of our best (if not best) 50 overs batsmen for a decent period of time. But hey, he works hard and will do anything for the team, something that just isn't looked favourably upon in this New Zealand setup.

Feel for him and have said it all along, Hesson doesn't rate him and he's one poor series away from being dropped.

Luke Ronchi 129 runs @ 25. Ah yes, get that man in the team.

As for Franklin, Ellis, Munro and McCullum, fmd. What a group of jokesters that lot is. A group of 20/40 players.

Be honest, how long and often do you watch players personalities compared to the game and how long have you been thinking about this?

Yeah personalities are just about the whole game to Kippax, you're not the first to suggest this. Strongly favours the "introduce this player, I'd get a much bigger kick out of weaving him into this whole saga", Neville Cardus interpretation of the game.

 

[Kippax]

Bit of a warm-up match in progress -
110/1 | CANTERBURY WIZARDS vs OTAGO VOLTS

@JimmyNeesh 9 Oct
@tarun_0707: @JimmyNeesh hey neesham hope u enjoyed being in India”

I enjoyed it so much I'm going back in a week!

 

[Mike5181]

So Broom is really going through with the opener thing.

 

[Hurricane]

Bit of a warm-up match in progress -
110/1 | CANTERBURY WIZARDS vs OTAGO VOLTS

Michael Bracewell has an inferior ball striking technique. He relies on cracking his wrists to swing the bat in essence rather than relying on his arms. When he gets it right he languidly hits sixes with pure timing. But the approach yields inconsistent results.