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Thread: Could promotion-relegation work between Division 2 and the Minor Counties Champions?

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    We need more geographical representation move Derbyshire to the Gower Coast, and start a new team in Western Scotland
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    Quote Originally Posted by superkingdave View Post
    We need more geographical representation move Derbyshire to the Gower Coast, and start a new team in Western Scotland
    Many a serious point made in jest.

    Fleshing it out in such a way as it works and keeps everyone happy would be difficult.

    But there were two sports with contrasting ideas on this question that got me thinking - one is football (with promotion and relegation) and the other is rugby league (Super League being a closed shop with no meritocratic entry or exit).

    Closed shops are never a good thing in competitive sport IMO.

    The franchise system in RL has concentrated all of the media attention (and therefore revenue) within the Super League clubs. Nobody else gets a look in even if the same club dominates the second tier for several seasons in a row.

    Promotion and relegation has transformed the championship in many ways, almost all of which have been positive.

    Plus, the thought of 8th vs 9th in a last match Hereford vs Brighton style shootout would be epic, wouldn't it?

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    Again, that's all well and good, but you've not made any convincing argument as to how what you propose earlier in the thread might be financial viable, regardless of whether or not it'd be a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sledger View Post
    Again, that's all well and good, but you've not made any convincing argument as to how what you propose earlier in the thread might be financial viable, regardless of whether or not it'd be a good idea.
    Fair point well made - I'd be pinning quite a bit of hope on the prospect of the Minors/Conference becoming a 'meaningful' league and therefore attracting greater media coverage. This could be used to increase the prize money, which would bridge the gap.

    The parachute payment for the relegated team would have to come from the 18 counties taking a couple of per cent less, as a sort of insurance policy. Would the test ground county sides go for it? Unlikely - no argument there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazinho View Post
    Plus, the thought of 8th vs 9th in a last match Hereford vs Brighton style shootout would be epic, wouldn't it?
    If by epic you mean 50 people turn up to watch rather than 25, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazinho View Post
    Fair point well made - I'd be pinning quite a bit of hope on the prospect of the Minors/Conference becoming a 'meaningful' league and therefore attracting greater media coverage.
    The county championship barely gets any media coverage any more so why would the minor counties get an increase if it became more "meaningful"?

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    I do like the idea, it's just not feasible though.

    Especially as someone who's from Cornwall who win the Minor Counties Championship last year and who are too far away from any of the major counties to ever really stand a chance of making it.
    I mean, West Cornwall is traditionally stronger than East. St Just, who are usually one of the better sides in Cornwall, is a 3 hour drive from Taunton.

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    Nice town is St Just, have visited there many times.

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    It can't work - for starters, where on earth would any of us play? We could probably manage Wormsley, but very few other MCs would have an appropriate ground for a full senior programme.

    Regardless, as has already been mentioned, all the MC players have full-time jobs from which they need to take time off to play in the fixtures so could not go "full-time" for a season and sacrifice job and career stability - they are not professional cricketers for a reason, and those who are young players on the way up will already inevitably be involved in a FC Second XI (in our case, usually Gloucestershire).

    I do miss the NatWest Trophy and the chance to kick a first-class side in the face, though. We will have to stick to doing that in the youth competitions for now...
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