Streak and Strang are good enough to bat at 8 and 9 so its not as important to select a player like Blignaut, but I suppose the question of a 3rd seamer vs 2nd spinner will impact on Whittal's chances of being selected. I know Heath likes Johnson, I rate Sean Ervine highly, although his Test career has been brief.
Campbell for the batting slot and Streak must be the first bowler on the list
As to the second on the strength of the man I saw in county cricket I'd go for Johnson
Kevin Arnott. Never heard of him but he can't be worse than the others who I have heard of and are awful. So take a punt on the devil you don't know.
Opening Bowlers. Heath Streak and Peter Rawson. The latter a member of the 1983 upset team iirc. Anyway its his birthday today and he was a good bowler who never got much of a chance.
Heath Streak & Kyle Jarvis
Flower, G as the opener.
Streak & Pommie as the bowlers.
Streak and Pommie to bowl, though I think if we could extend the requirement to "representative" cricket then Rawson would be a shout.
Grant Flower as opener. Arnott was unlucky test cricket didn't arrive 5 years earlier - he averaged near 40 against the various international and youth teams that Zimbabwe played in the run-up to test admission.
Flower, Streak and Jarvis
Tempted by Arnott, but to be honest about it he probably would not have maintained that average if he had played a lot of tests. Grant had a very long decline as we all know, but for a few years he was a genuine test-class opener.
Streak picks himself, and I back Jarvis to surpass every other Zimbabwean fast bowler. Rawson was good, but we don't know how he would have gone in tests. Is it possible to pick him as a third seamer?
You can pick whoever you like. I prefer to judge at least primarily based on Tests for Zimbabwe which rules Rawson out for me (otherwise I'd be considering Hick as well) but you don't have to go by my criteria. You'll have an opportunity to pick a third seamer later, although I imagine you might end up voting for Price instead of one during that round (assuming the forum picks Strang as the main spinner).
Originally Posted by Chubb
I really rated Brandes
Jarvis has only played against Windies and Bang though. Not enough of a test. Rawson could very likely have been better.
Originally Posted by Prince EWS
Which is why I voted for Brain.
Originally Posted by harsh.skm
I'm surprised I'm the only one picking Brandes. He had something about him. Bowled a heavy ball, moved it away from the bat. IMO, more deserving than the rest of the names.
Jarvis looks like a talented club cricketer, Mbangwa was a terrible international bowler - basically Mark Butcher without the batting, and Olonga charged in hard all day to bowl gun barrel straight at 130 kph.
Not much comp for me for The Chicken Farmer
I'm agreed with you - Brandes was a quality bowler and another for whom Test Cricket came just a tad too late.
Mbangwa was miserly accurate but not much more than that. Throw in that he competes with Chris Martin for the title of worst test batsman of the last 25 years and his inclusion in this team is difficult to build a case for IMO.
Olonga was very similar to Devon Malcolm - lethal on his day, just that day didn't come along that often.
Depending on the balance of the side, my bowlers would come from:-
Automatic picks - Streak, Brandes
Then any two from - Brain, Blignaut, P Strang, Price
Batsmen - G Flower, Whittall, Campbell, Goodwin, Houghton, A Flower
All-rounder - Johnson
My list from 2007
1. G Flower
2. A Campbell (c)
3. M Goodwin
4. D Houghton
5. A Flower (wk)
6. G Whitall
7. H Streak
8. P Strang
9. A Blignaut
10. R Price
11. H Olonga
I'll stand by it. Even with the emergence of Taylor and Taibu, whose records against teams which aren't Bangladesh are poor.
Heath Streak 17
Kyle Jarvis 8
Pommie Mbangwa 3
David Brain 2
Eddo Brandes 2
Neil Johnson 1
Peter Rawson 1
Grant Flower 13
Alistair Campbell 2
Kevil Arnott 1
Team so far
1. Grant Flower
8. Heath Streak (o)
11. Kyle Jarvis (o)
Next up you are to select THREE middle order batsmen and ONE spinner.
Don't worry about wicket keeping or bowling when selecting the middle order bats; we'll vote on some balance options later. The aim at the moment is just to fill the 3-5 spots with the best middle order bats adjudged by CW.
Middle order suggestions:
Spin bowler suggestions:
PLAYER TEST CAREER BATTING 3-6
Andy Flower 4794r @ 51.54 4646r @ 51.05
Dave Houghton 1464r @ 43.05 1464r @ 43.05
Murray Goodwin 1414r @ 42.84 1414r @ 42.84
Tatenda Taibu 1546r @ 30.31 1115r @ 34.84
Sean Ervine 261r @ 32.62 202r @ 33.66
Guy Whittall 2207r @ 29.42 1277r @ 33.60
Brendan Taylor 1182r @ 34.76 994r @ 31.06
Neil Johnson 532r @ 24.18 514r @ 30.23
Stuart Carlisle 1615r @ 26.91 1135r @ 27.68
Alastair Campbell 2858r @ 27.21 2453r @ 26.37
PLAYER TEST CAREER
Adam Huckle 25w @ 34.88
Paul Strang 70w @ 36.02
Ray Price 80w @ 36.06
John Traicos 14w @ 40.14
Graeme Cremer 24w @ 45.62
Brian Murphy 18w @ 61.83