New Zealand All Time Team - Open Voting

[HeathDavisSpeed]

NSW definitely would. Vic, Qld, WA & SA would be an even money chance.

What is your point? Just continuing the age old trend of putting down the little fullas over the Tasman? In fact, would NSW even send that team? They'd probably send a second XI made up of youngsters with a senior head or two to keep 'em in line.

And as for the other states - who gets Clarrie Grimmett? Or would NSW take him for the 2nd XI as he played club cricket there?

 

[Red]

What is your point? Just continuing the age old trend of putting down the little fullas over the Tasman? In fact, would NSW even send that team? They'd probably send a second XI made up of youngsters with a senior head or two to keep 'em in line.

And as for the other states - who gets Clarrie Grimmett? Or would NSW take him for the 2nd XI as he played club cricket there?

No point. Just talking **** cos I'm bored. I'll stop now.

 

[Flem274*]

No spinner? How do you rate Vettori? Who do you reckon are the leading spin contenders?

J.R. Reid bowled both fast medium and off spin.

Beyond him, no one. They're a waste of a spot, Vettori included. Vettori would definitely push for a spot if his 2005 batting onwards was extended back to 1997, or his 1997 - 2002 bowling was extended for his entire career, or even better if he pulled off both at the same time, but it didn't pan out that way so he misses out.

 

[harsh.ag]

J.R. Reid bowled both fast medium and off spin.

Beyond him, no one. They're a waste of a spot, Vettori included.

Agreed.

Turner and Sutcliffe for me. I would like to have Dempster at 4 where he batted for Leicestershire.

 

[Mike5181]

All-time:

1. Glenn Turner
2. Stewie Dempster
3. Bert Sutcliffe
4. Martin Crowe
5. Martin Donnelly/Stephen Fleming/Ross Taylor
6. John R Reid
7. Christopher Cairns
8. Brendon McCullum+
9. Richard Hadlee
10. Shane Bond
11. Jack Cowie

Best I've seen:

1. Mark Richardson
2. Brendon McCullum
3. Stephen Fleming
4. Ross Taylor
5. Nathan Astle
6. Christopher Cairns
7. Daniel Vettori
8. Adam Parore+
9. Tim Southee
10. Shane Bond
11. Trent Boult

Won't be long until Williamson/Ryder take Astle's spot.
Oram probably unlucky.

 

[Coronis]

NSW definitely would. Vic, Qld, WA & SA would be an even money chance.

Even without Bradman, the NSW side would be...

Morris
Simpson
Macartney
McCabe
Trumper
Waugh
Murdoch
Lindwall
Davidson
McGrath
O'Reilly

You always have some interesting XI's Monk.

 

[Red]

It's a disease I think

 

[Hurricane]

Most of Australia's ATG Sheffield Shield sides would beat whatever NZ side is selected.

get out of the thread.

if you need an explanation - what you have written might be accurate but it is arrogant and shows poor manners.

 

[Hurricane]

Would once again be starting with the openers. As not that familiar with New Zealand cricket will be using the shortlist from Cricinfo's exercise.

Would also like to note at this point that Richard Hadlee due to his unquestioned status of the greatest N.Z cricketer is an automatic selection to the XI.

Back on topic, kindly choose two of the following or any two of your own choosing.

Stewie Dempster | Graham Dowling | Bruce Edgar | Mark Richardson | Bert Sutcliffe | Glenn Turner | John Wright

bruce edgar, sutcliffe

 

[Flametree]

Turner and Dempster

Really think we should claim back Grimmett for this exercise... Australia didn't need him.

 

[NUFAN]

Glenn Turner and Mark Richardson.

I've decided to throw a vote Richardson's way due to his impressive ability at blunting the opposition new ball bowlers. Handy Test bowling average of 21 too.

 

[kyear2]

Clear victories for Stewie Dempster and Glenn Turner. Team so far,

01. Glenn Turner
02. Stewie Dempster
03.
04.
05.
06.
07.
08. Richard Hadle
09.
10.
11.

Next up is the other two fast bowlers to pair with Hadlee, The bolwer with the most votes of the two, to open with Hadlee.
Kindly select any two of the following or anyone of your own choosing.

Shane Bond | Ewen Chatfield | Richard Collinge | Jack Cowie | Chris Martin | Danny Morrison | Dick Motz

 

[Howe_zat]

Cowie for sure. Not as clear on the other - someone want to convince me to vote against Bond?

 

[Prince EWS]

Jack Cowie and Chris Cairns

 

[harsh.ag]

Cowie for sure. Not sure on the other - someone want to convince me to vote against Bond?

One word. Bourne.

 

[Red]

get out of the thread.

if you need an explanation - what you have written might be accurate but it is arrogant and shows poor manners.

It wasn't intended to be arrogant, nor do I think it showed poor manners in any way. It was just an observation.

 

[watson]

Cowie and Bond

 

[Flem274*]

Shane Bond | Ewen Chatfield | Richard Collinge | Jack Cowie | Chris Martin | Danny Morrison | Dick Motz

Cowie
Bond

That really is quite a weird little selection of bowlers from cricinfo. Taylor? Cameron? I'm going to assume Chris Cairns is in the allrounder category otherwise...

Morrison and Marto shouldn't be on that list. Nice to see Dick Motz wasn't forgotten. Chatfield was a gun foil for Hadlee and a great character of the game but I'm not sure he's a top eight bowler for us.

Heef to castigate me.

edit: actually I hope we are able to pick both Cairns and J.R. Reid in this exercise (cricinfo didn't allow it iirc). I don't think we should be forced to pick a spinner either. It would be like requiring India to pick 3 or 4 quicks when their strength lies in all their spin options.

Not trying to criticise kyear, just hoping there is a bit of room to play with the structure.

 

[BeeGee]

Cowie and Bond

 

[Bahnz]

As before, Cowie and Bond - with Baylor to step in when Bond breaks down injured half an hour before the beginning of a test.