Jarquis
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Brutal poll.
It's one of those "masturbation or beer?" dilemmas to which there's just no wrong answer.
Brutal poll.
It's one of those "masturbation or beer?" dilemmas to which there's just no wrong answer.
Not if the source of the other option is Virat Kohli, surely?Well if you're thirsty, I'd like to think most would go for the beer rather than drinking the other option.
Dravid also didn't have the luxury of Hayden-Langer before him. It's not an appropriate comparison really because Dravid had to drop sheet anchor half the time, at least when Sehwag wasn't giving them flying starts (and that's only since what..04?). Not saying he was capable of dominating attacks like Ponting anyway but the dynamics of the Indian team of the era demanded a different sort of player and he fit the bill to perfection.Always felt Dravid never got credit whenever he batted well in a situation where the team batted well as a whole. He's always remembered for innings in which the majority around him failed.
But then again I did miss over half of his career..
Not if the source of the other option is Virat Kohli, surely?
To be fair, Sehwag averaged close to 52 with a 80+ SR during Dravid's career, so that wasn't very often. Gambhir played 50 odd tests and had a record similar to Langer's as well. If you're going to play the better openers/worse openers card you could argue that the drop in quality when (Sehwag/Gambhir) weren't there was a lot bigger than (Hayden/Langer) considering they had guys like Katich, Slater, Taylor etc for periods.Dravid also didn't have the luxury of Hayden-Langer before him. It's not an appropriate comparison really because Dravid had to drop sheet anchor half the time, at least when Sehwag wasn't giving them flying starts (and that's only since what..04?). Not saying he was capable of dominating attacks like Ponting anyway but the dynamics of the Indian team of the era demanded a different sort of player and he fit the bill to perfection.
But you're ignoring the first 7-8 years of his career which is when he really made his mark abroad with those knocks in England and New Zealand. We didn't have decent openers then..that's almost half his career. I'm not comparing pedigrees here, but Dravid just didn't have the bedding in period that Ponting enjoyed. He was on the frontlines from the very beginning and he did a great job of it.To be fair, Sehwag averaged close to 52 with a 80+ SR during Dravid's career, so that wasn't very often. Gambhir played 50 odd tests and had a record similar to Langer's as well. If you're going to play the better openers/worse openers card you could argue that the drop in quality when (Sehwag/Gambhir) weren't there was a lot bigger than (Hayden/Langer) considering they had guys like Katich, Slater, Taylor etc for periods.
Not that I believe Ponting would automatically dominate against McG either (one was McG's FC debut and the other was when he wasn't the finished article as a Test bowler) but, **** me, the Hick game was a warm-up where Warne was specifically told not to bowl his best stuff vs live FC matches between strong teams going balls out to win. Not even remotely the same thing.And to say that because Ponting did well against McGrath and warne in shield cricket automatically means that he would have played them well in international cricket is also incorrect. Graeme Hick took Shane Warne to the cleaners in a warm up game prior to the start of the 93 Ashes tour. Enough said.
Not deliberate crap, but it's pretty common knowledge that Warne was told not to show much beyond basic leg breaks in the tour matches before the first Test.He was told to bowl crap? Right ok.
I just find it funny that people try to use a silly argument that Ponting didn't face Warne and McGrath so that goes against him. Its just a stupid strawman argument that holds no credibility at all. Something that a 14 year old kid would say.And to say that because Ponting did well against McGrath and warne in shield cricket automatically means that he would have played them well in international cricket is also incorrect. Graeme Hick took Shane Warne to the cleaners in a warm up game prior to the start of the 93 Ashes tour. Enough said.
No they wouldn't. Most 14 year olds are too young to remember Warne and McGrath.I just find it funny that people try to use a silly argument that Ponting didn't face Warne and McGrath so that goes against him. Its just a stupid strawman argument that holds no credibility at all. Something that a 14 year old kid would say.