#J.Hobbs; #L.Hutton; #D.Bradman; #V.Richards; #G.Sobers; #A.Border; #A.Gilchrist; #K.Miller; #I.Khan; #S.Warne; #M.Marshall;
Just so you know, harsh and watson, that wasn't a serious post.
Had to go with Ponting here, just though. Close competition, Dravid is always underrated! Is it just me or did Ponting fade a lot earlier than other ATG's?
ATG World XI
1. J.B Hobbs 2. H. Sutcliffe 3. D.G Bradman 4. R.G Pollock 5. W.R Hammond 6. G.S Sobers 7. A.C Gilchrist 8. M.J Procter 9. M.D Marshall 10. S.K Warne 11. G.D McGrath
02-07 Ponting was just unreal. Averaged 70+ as whole, and averaged at least 60 against everyone besides England (56) and Sri Lanka (40). I would think that very few batsmen have been quite so good for such an extended period (more than 60 tests).
Dravid was probably more consistent over a longer period of time, but if you're talking purely about the two players in their prime, then Ponting comfortably for me.
Dravid for me, classical test batsman.
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lol on the slips comment. you could argue dravid was a better batsman before you could argue he's a better slipper. which he isn't. better. at batting or fielding.
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Agree, Ponting, especially to pace was one of the very best slip fielders and for me clearly ahead of Dravid who was prone to some lapses. Ponting was truely special in the slips.
Hutton* | Hobbs | Bradman | Richards^ | Tendulkar | Sobers5^ | Gilchrist+ | Khan3 | Marshall1 | Warne4^ | McGrath2
Sutcliffe | Gavaskar* | Headley | Chappell^ | Lara^ | Kallis5^ | Knott+ | Hadlee3 | Ambrose2 | Lillee1 | Muralitharan4
Greenidge | Richards^ | Ponting^ | Pollock | Hammond^ | Worrell5* | Waite+ | Akram3 | Steyn1 | Holding2 | O'Reilly4
Morris | Simpson^ | Sangakkara | Weekes^ | Border*^ | Walcott+ | Faulkner5 | Laker4 | Trueman1 | Garner3 | Donald2
Tendulkar and Lara did get talked about a lot, especially in pre-match situations, though of course a lot of that was because of the fact that both of them were for the majority of their careers the heart and spine of their team's batting. Maybe if they played for a team like Australia they may not have been but then again maybe if Ponting played for an average team he would be hyped up even more. However, if you want players that actually did turn games on their head within a session or two then I would look at Gilchrist or Sehwag and not the above 3.
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Tendulkar = the most overated player EVER!!
Beckham = the most overated footballer EVER!!
Vassell = the biggest disgrace since rikki clarke!!
I think with players like Ponting (or Viv or whoever), it's not their career SR of 50something that "scares" other teams, it's the extra gear they can go in to at times.
Australia - Ponting
England - Dravid
India - Dravid
SL - Ponting
SA - Ponting
NZ, WI, Pak - Both pretty much equal
Ponting by a nose, mainly because he was more atttacking.
You don't allow Bradman to average 100. He averages 100 because nobody can control his scoring - Coronis at his eloquent best
Draft Side: Hobbs | Hutton | Don | Pollock | Ponting |ABDV | Miller | Davidson | Warne | Garner | Waqar
For the record;
Ponting: 59 runs per 100 balls
Dravid: 43 runs per 100 balls
Not a huge believer in SR mattering a great deal in tests, but I can understand why people do factor it in.
They were very different players really. Ponting's first instinct was most always to attack. Dravid less so. Dravid was almost a player from another time in a way. You could film him in black and white and imagine him on the field in the 30s or the golden age. Just that bearing to him. He also played fast bowling so late. Was a classical old-school style player. I oved watching him bat. It was sad to see his last series here. He's a proper gent to boot. A class act.
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Well I'm surprised at the poll results. I thought dravid would have at least 50% of the votes. People oviously don't rate his reliability and sound classical test match technique against pontings somewhat suspect one against spin and swing. I agree with most said about ponting and the way he gets his runs quicker and is more attacking but I just thinking dravids got more to offer the team which makes him a better player.
Dream Team since 1970-2012 1.Boycott 2.Hayden 3.Ponting (C) 4.Lara 5.Richards 6.Kallis 7.Gilchrist(WK) 8.Warne 9.Hadlee 10.Lillee 11.McGrath 12th man Tendulkar
Dream Team 1870-1970 1.Hobbs 2.Hutton 3.Bradman (C) 4.Hammond 5.Miller 6.Sobers 7.Oldield(WK)8.Lindwall 9.Trueman 10.Barnes 11.O'Reilly 12th man Weekes
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