Whether Steyn is in the top 3 pacers that I don"t know but what I know is Glenn Mc Grath is the greatest fast bowler to grace the cricket pitch.Steyn is a fine bowler , certainly takes poles faster than most.
Last edited by Philhughesisbes; 26-04-2013 at 05:16 PM.
Just sounds like a coach pumping up his player,
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yup, AWTA, but he is certainly rising pretty fast though. Wouldn't quite sat top three for me though.
Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2
Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4
Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Cameron+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2
Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3
Yeah, not top 3 for me atm, but he is certainly up there. Not the most ridiculous thing a former player has said, by a long way.
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I'm happy enough to put Steyn in my top 3 fast bowlers from the past 20-25 years.
He's behind McGrath and Ambrose but no one else is coming to me. Actually Waqar himself would probably be the closest.
Personally I'd put him neck-and-neck with Donald. You'd feel guilty leaving either out of your all-time SA eleven.
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Amla had surpassed Nourse for you now Monk? Good team, I just wouldn't pick Boucher over Waite, have never been impressed by Boucher's keeping particularily to.spin.
Last edited by kyear2; 27-04-2013 at 04:32 AM.
Steyn has played 65 Tests and almost 9 years worth of Test cricket. His record in that time is ridiculous. Combine that with his team successes and yes...discussions about being amongst the greatest ever shouldn't be alien anymore.
Has had tremendous success both inside and outside the subcontinent which even a few of the greats from yesteryear could not manage. Definitely a top 3 bowler for mine behind Marshall and McGrath. The fact that he has done it in an era of flat pitches and skewed rules in favour of the batsmen makes him all the more praiseworthy. Another couple of years in similar vein and he'll knock off McG and MM IMHO.
Steyn will run into a WI team with no decent batsman who are averaging 22 and crap like that. Then you have the Marcus Norths and Shane Watson who can't stay out in the middle.
He's very good but I can't say he has been tested. He has never had to bowl an over like Michael Holding did to get Boycott out or his heroics of getting 14 wickets on a flat pitch.
He is way better than all the others today but the reason why he doesn't get compared to greats too often is because of the elephant in the room - he hasn't done much special against good players.
I love his pace (even tho he has been down recently) and only Shoaib Akhtar in recent time can mirror his record.. But I would even argue Akhtar was a greater threat than Steyn - he had a strike rate of 45 and avg of 25. Steyn also has a history of not getting wickets with the new ball - which to me is a big problem but it just speaks to how weak these batsman are today that even when they see off the danger man he still comes back and get wickets...
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