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On the subject of players shafted by the apartheid government, Basil D'Oliveira needs to be mentioned.
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Originally Posted by Bertolt Brecht
People who did get shafted by the apartheid government are non-whites who never got a chance to play at a proper level.
It's sad that I'm relatively knowledgeable about SA cricket but off the top of my head I can think of only three or four names of black SA cricketers who could have been greats if they hadn't played in an abnormal society.
I'm not sure Hick was shafted but he was certainly dicked around and a victim of England's cricketing culture of the time.
I'd say Martyn Moxon was certainly treated poorly.
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And of course he was recalled during the 1989 Ashes shambles for one Test. He got 0 in the first innings and then in the second innings Gower inexplicably decided to open the batting himself and Moxon ended up at Number 4, failed, and was never seen again.
Last edited by Lillian Thomson; 24-04-2013 at 05:40 AM.
Especially the guys who got an Oval test at the end of a series and were never picked for England again.
And that guy who played for England against the Rest of the World XI, did OK, but was never picked for England in an official Test match (although the ROW XI matches had Test status at the time he played).
Can't think of his name now, Alan Jones maybe?
EDIT: Yes, Alan Jones: Alan Jones | Cricket Players and Officials | ESPN Cricinfo
Last edited by Marius; 24-04-2013 at 05:52 AM.
I thought he was badly treated. Having done OK on his debut winter tours, I think he played a test or two in the mess that was the 1988 series against WI and then, as you say, was barely seen apart from a brief glimpse in the even bigger debacle in 1989. He certainly played fewer test in those series than Tim Curtis & Kim Barnett, who clearly had no sort of technique for that level.
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