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Thread: Graphs of Wickets by Batting Order for Good Bowlers

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    terry alderman & swervin mervyn pls
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    I just love all kinds of balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the big bambino View Post
    Just a couple of points raised in the thread. First up I don't think the circumstances that Nufan highlighted occur often enough to question the graphs. Besides its a bowler's job to remove nightwatchmen asap. And nighwatchmen succeed often enough for them to be a legit top order wicket.

    Satyanash is right. If you clean up the tail after removing the openers you're penalised by the perception you are a tail order basher. Its the job of fast bowlers to get the openers and come back and quash the tail. Akram did that expertly so I think his high no of tail ender wkts proves he did his job.
    Agree that Satyanash's reasoning was better, all I was wanting to say was that there could still be skewed results. If someone takes 200 wickets and just 10 of them are as a result of a changed batting order it skewed the percentages enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uvelocity View Post
    terry alderman & swervin mervyn pls
    Here you go:



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    At the risk of causing **** in this thread,

    Kallis and Sobers please.


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    cheers. they played in an era of no outstanding spin options, so the even spread is probably a result of that. merv maybe a higher percentage of tailenders by scaring the **** out of them more than alderman

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    I think the question to ask might be - For two similar bowlers (skill-wise and statistically), what could be the reason(s) to prefer the one with a higher percentage of tail-end wickets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uvelocity View Post
    cheers. they played in an era of no outstanding spin options, so the even spread is probably a result of that. merv maybe a higher percentage of tailenders by scaring the **** out of them more than alderman


    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    At the risk of causing **** in this thread,

    Kallis and Sobers please.
    I am not going there Read the thread title. Good bowlers only

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    Yet you made one for Lyon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    Yet you made one for Lyon
    That was out of a shared faith that his figures would be s***

    Nah, seriously I don't this thread to go the Sobers-Kallis route. Actually, I think I will just post their graphs in the 'Greatest Cricketer' thread. Okay.

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    Fair enough.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Waite+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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