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    Pakistan's bowlers:









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    New Zealand and Murali








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    And finally, India:












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    I appreciate the effort by harsh.

    I wouldn't be getting my little fella rising so much at the sight of all that blue without thinking about the opposition lineups, bowlers role in team and teammates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    I appreciate the effort by harsh.

    I wouldn't be getting my little fella rising so much at the sight of all that blue without thinking about the opposition lineups, bowlers role in team and teammates.
    Off you go then NUFAN. After you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    I appreciate the effort by harsh.

    I wouldn't be getting my little fella rising so much at the sight of all that blue without thinking about the opposition lineups, bowlers role in team and teammates.
    Thanks Nuf (Deliberately ignoring the next line )

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    Yeah it's a good effort. What do you think the graph teaches us?

    I think getting out the middle order is pretty much as useful as getting out the top order and there are situations where the lower order stats could be misleading. England for instance play a night watchman quite regularly which makes Prior as valuable a wicket as Chris Martin and then James Anderson or Steve Finn as important as Don Bradman to exaggerate my point.

    There are also situations where teams declare/reach victory targets not many down which boosts the top order stats.

    Like most comparisons the best ones are of the players who played most regularly together so Warne&McGrath, Donald&Pollock, The Windies quicks from the 80s were the graphs I liked the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    I appreciate the effort by harsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    Yeah it's a good effort. What do you think the graph teaches us?

    I think getting out the middle order is pretty much as useful as getting out the top order and there are situations where the lower order stats could be misleading. England for instance play a night watchman quite regularly which makes Prior as valuable a wicket as Chris Martin and then James Anderson or Steve Finn as important as Don Bradman to exaggerate my point.

    There are also situations where teams declare/reach victory targets not many down which boosts the top order stats.

    Like most comparisons the best ones are of the players who played most regularly together so Warne&McGrath, Donald&Pollock, The Windies quicks from the 80s were the graphs I liked the most.
    Yup, agree about the middle order being as important as top order part. Everything else evens out I guess. Maybe the lower middle order is better in the modern game as compared to earlier, with keeper-batsmen and all.

    I thought about making comparisons across eras, but then thought country-wise would be more useful in the long run. Plus, there would be a pile in the 70s-80s post, but too few in the othere
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    Great job Harsh.

    Top and middle just important, don't want to high a percentage of the lower order though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Great job Harsh.

    Top and middle just important, don't want to high a percentage of the lower order though.
    Thanks

    Waqar's record seems superior to Wasim, what do you think?

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    nice work.

    reckon it would be interesting (and i guess impossible) to show the strike rate for bowlers against the three categories
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