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  • Bishen Bedi

    1 2.78%
  • Erapalli Prasanna

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  • Anil Kumble

    2 5.56%
  • Bhagwat Chandrasekhar

    3 8.33%
  • Clarrie Grimmett

    3 8.33%
  • Bill O'Reilly

    14 38.89%
  • Lance Gibbs

    1 2.78%
  • Hedley Verity

    2 5.56%
  • Derek Underwood

    1 2.78%
  • Abdul Qadir

    3 8.33%
  • Subhash Gupte

    0 0%
  • Peter Siddle when bowling cutters

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    The third best spinner of all time?

    May well have been discussed before, but let's have a plebiscite anyway.
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    Always used to come down between O'Reilly and Laker. But looking at opposition, team structure, conditions ect, Chandra seems to be creeping into contention for me.
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    FMD, knew I'd forgot Laker.

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    Where's harbhajan Singh? The second highest wicket taker off spinner? And the fourth highest wicket taking spinner of all time. After harbhajan I'd say Kumble bedi or underwood.
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    Well yeah Tendy is probably better than Bradman, but Bradman was 70 years ago, if he grew up in the modern era he'd still easily be the best. Though he wasn't, can understand the argument for Tendy even though I don't agree.
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    Over in India playing for Mumbai, if I'm not mistaken.
    Wherever he is, he's nowhere near this list. Stats aren't the be-all and end-all; they lie.

    Also, you derailed another thread with this line of argument. In the inevitable event of people disagreeing with you, please do not respond in an overly-aggressive or condescending manner.

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    Well of course he's supporting Harbhajan - knocked him out of the contest first time around.

    Anyway, my answer to the question is O'Reilly. I reckon the way he bowled - quick, with natural and intended variation - worked perfectly in his era and he found the weaknesses of who he bowled to perfectly.

    I've posted this quote before but it definitely resonates with me - from Maurice Leyland, generally regarded as one of (if not the) finest players of spin of his day:

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    If he knew himself to have the measure of the great O'Reilly, who was no paper tiger, he also retained the respect of one master for another. Describing an over of fearsome hostility, he said: "First he bowled me an off-break, then he bowled me a leg-break; then his googly, then a bumper, then one that went with his arm . . . ."

    "But that's only five, Maurice. What about the last one ?"

    "Oh, that," said Maurice deprecatingly. "That was a straight 'un and it bowled me."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffboycott View Post
    Where's harbhajan Singh? The second highest wicket taker off spinner? And the fourth highest wicket taking spinner of all time. After harbhajan I'd say Kumble bedi or underwood.
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    Walsh took more wickets than Marshall he wan't better though.

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    For me its between Grimmett and O'Reilly, with Laker in fifth. Unless you count Barnes as a spinner. Voted Grimmett.
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    went for Grimmett over O'reilly on account of him being more inventive - he invented the flipper for instance. However it would have been a tough call if Mckay's back-of-the-hand slower balls were in their.

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    The baffling and, frankly, shameful omission of Fred Titmus means only one of the contenders has a Half Man Half Biscuit song named after them, so it's a no-brainer.
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    If you're going by the testimony of some great batsman then Bill O'Reilly would be very close to being the third best spinner of all time on that list.

    I'd like to offer Sydney Barnes though. As well as the many testimonies of admiring batsman he also has superb stat's. Not that O'Reilly's are bad, they're very good. It's just that the Strike Rate and Average of Sydney Barnes were on a level above.

    Here is an interesting article that compares the numbers between Barnes and Murali;

    Blogs: Barnes and Muralitharan at par | Cricket Blogs | ESPN Cricinfo
    Len Hutton - Jack Hobbs - Ted Dexter - Peter May - Walter Hammond - Frank Woolley - Ian Botham - Alan Knott - Hedley Verity - John Snow - Fred Trueman

    Victor Trumper - Bill Lawry - Don Bradman - Greg Chappell - Allan Border - Keith Miller - Adam Gilchrist - Alan Davidson - Shane Warne - Dennis Lillee - Glenn McGrath

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