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    "Best ever" teams selected by former players or experts- whose is best?

    Pretty basic really. Of all the experts and former players who have included "best ever" teams in their books/biographies, whose team do you consider the greatest, and why?

    Would be ripping if a few of the guys who have a lot of cricket books could post a few sides in here for discussion.

    I'll start it off with Benaud's Greatest XI (selected in 2004):

    Hobbs
    Gavaskar
    Bradman
    V.Richards
    Tendulkar
    Sobers
    Imran
    Gilchrist
    Warne
    Lillee
    SF Barnes
    12th- Miller

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    Some that I have seen, ex players, journalist and web sites

    Geoff Armstrong
    Grace, Hobbs, Bradman, Tendulkar, Pollock, Sobers, Gilchrist, Imran, Marshall, Warne, Barnes

    Cricinfo
    Hutton, Hobbs, Bradman, Tendulkar, Richards, Sobers, Gilchrist, Marshall, Akram, Warne, Lillee

    Geoffrey Boycott
    Hobbs, Hutton, Bradman, Headley, Richards, Sobers, Knott, Marshall, Warne, Lillee, Barnes

    Bleacher
    Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Bradman, Tendulkar, Sobers, Gilchrist, Miller, Imran, Warne, Marshall, Barnes

    Benaud
    Hobbs, Gavaskar, Bradman, Richards, Tendulkar, Sobers, Imran, Gilchrist, Warne, Lillee, Barnes

    CricketWeb
    Hobbs, Hutton, Bradman, Richards, Tendulkar, Sobers, Gilchrist, Imran, Marshall, Warne, Mcgrath

    Christopher Martin-Jenkins
    Grace, Hobbs, Bradman, Richards, Hammond, Sobers, Gilchrist, Marshall, Warne, Barnes, Mcgrath

    Would have to go with Boycott's, additionally he did say that Tendulkar would automatically get a place in the team once he retires, over Headley I pressume.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Cameron+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    "shortly before his death"
    Don Bradman
    Richards, Morris, Bradman, Tendulkar, Sobers, Tallon, Lindwall, Lillee, Bedser, O'Reilly, Grimmett.
    12 Man: Hammond

    7 Aussies, unsurprising. Only has 4 batsmen, plus Sobers, with a reasoning of "If they can't make 500, who can?" Also heavily biased toward his own career, with 7 of the players (8 including Hammond) having played with or against him.
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    David Frith:

    A Stoddart (capt)
    A Jackson
    D Bradman
    W Hammond
    G Sobers
    M Procter
    G Evans (wk)
    R Lindwall
    B O'Reilly
    S Barnes
    B Chandrasekhar
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    I quite like Boycott's effort. Knott and Barnes would make a fantastic combination;

    01. Hobbs
    02. Hutton
    03. Bradman
    04. Headley
    05. Richards
    06. Sobers
    07. Knott
    08. Marshall
    09. Warne
    10. Lillee
    11. Barnes

    David Frith's team is mega-unbalanced and just plain silly tbh.
    Last edited by watson; 07-04-2013 at 02:09 PM.
    Len Hutton - Jack Hobbs - Ted Dexter - David Gower - Walter Hammond - Frank Woolley - Ian Botham - Alan Knott - Hedley Verity - John Snow - Fred Trueman

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    CWs team is the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    CWs team is the best.
    Yep

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    CWs team is the best.
    And by some distance. Next is Cricinfo's, though still don't understand the Akran selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronis View Post
    "shortly before his death"
    Don Bradman
    Richards, Morris, Bradman, Tendulkar, Sobers, Tallon, Lindwall, Lillee, Bedser, O'Reilly, Grimmett.
    12 Man: Hammond

    7 Aussies, unsurprising. Only has 4 batsmen, plus Sobers, with a reasoning of "If they can't make 500, who can?" Also heavily biased toward his own career, with 7 of the players (8 including Hammond) having played with or against him.
    Was never proven to be Bradman's actual selections as it was suspiciously released after his death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Was never proven to be Bradman's actual selections as it was suspiciously released after his death.
    Ah ok, didn't know that. Wouldn't be surprised if his wasn't similar.

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    Just noticed that Benaud and Bradman (allegedly) both don't have Marshall in their team, or none of the other great West Indian pacers... strange... did they not rate them as highly as others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satyanash89 View Post
    Just noticed that Benaud and Bradman (allegedly) both don't have Marshall in their team, or none of the other great West Indian pacers... strange... did they not rate them as highly as others?
    When Benaud was making his ATG XI he first created a short list of three players at each position, thats six (6) fast bowlers, namely Lillee, Mcgrath, Lindwall, Larwood, Trueman and Barnes, Marshall didn't even make the short list. Similarily Murali didn't make his three man short list for spinners and all three of his keepers were Australian (Gilchrist, Healy and Marsh) and even Knott couldn't make the short list.

    Some biases in some of his selections, but really all of the batting lists were just just spot on IMHO.

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    CW's is my favourite, followed by CMJ.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kapil View Post
    David Frith:

    A Stoddart (capt)
    A Jackson
    D Bradman
    W Hammond
    G Sobers
    M Procter
    G Evans (wk)
    R Lindwall
    B O'Reilly
    S Barnes
    B Chandrasekhar
    What is this? 7 bowling options and 2.5 leg spinners. Wouldn't even be that bad if he brought a batsman in for Chandrasekhar.
    Last edited by Cabinet96; 07-04-2013 at 11:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satyanash89 View Post
    Just noticed that Benaud and Bradman (allegedly) both don't have Marshall in their team, or none of the other great West Indian pacers... strange... did they not rate them as highly as others?
    Neither men were particularly fond of the WI pace battery and their agressive nature (bouncers) which IMO is highly hypocritical considering they both selected Lillee. Also they might have been from the school of thought that thinks that the WI operated as a unit and therefore couldnt thrive as individuals which is ridiculous IMO.
    Cause Slifer said so.........!!!!

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    Who is Bleacher? I like his team.

    I don't really rate the teams which pick only 2 genuine pace bowlers, even if they include Barnes and Sobers.
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