View Poll Results: Most important captaincy credential

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  • Field placement/tactics

    7 24.14%
  • Man-management/personal leadership

    15 51.72%
  • Their personal performances

    2 6.90%
  • Usman Khawaja is a negative influence on the squad

    5 17.24%
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    Quote Originally Posted by wpdavid View Post
    Luck
    Do you genuinely believe that some players are luckier than others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wpdavid View Post
    Luck

    After that, man management.

    After that, decision making.
    Yep. If you are not lucky, we cannot use you as captain, I'm afraid.

    Quote Originally Posted by BeeGee View Post
    Do you genuinely believe that some players are luckier than others?
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeGee View Post
    Do you genuinely believe that some players are luckier than others?
    Luck is an easy way to account for all the little unnoticed things they do right which add up. If someone's consistently lucky as a skipper then they're doing something right but no one can pin down what it is.
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    It depends what you mean by luck. Mike Brearley is often called a great captain, but he had the second coming of Geoff Boycott, the emergence of Gower, the most gifted all-rounder ever and England's two leading wicket takers in history - plus played mainly against weakened opponents. A tad fortunate perhaps.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillian Thomson View Post
    It depends what you mean by luck. Mike Brearley is often called a great captain, but he had the second coming of Geoff Boycott, the emergence of Gower, the most gifted all-rounder ever and England's two leading wicket takers in history - plus played mainly against weakened opponents. A tad fortunate perhaps.......

    That's the sort of thing I had in mind. Ditto some of that regarding Illingworth, actually.

    The other thing I should have included was having a shed load of great players at his disposal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Yeah I agree. Captains are always really reluctant to swallow their pride on this one if the batsman is farming the strike well anyway or the tailender looks comfortable in defence.
    Look, it really depends on the situation.. If the batsman is batting on say 5* and you push the field back just because he has no.9 batting with him, it has no logic really. It has a place when it is the no. 11 and he is not renowned for being able to stay there for too long and the batsman is batting reasonably well at the other end. At just about every other instance, it is a blunder of a tactic with very little logic behind it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    Look, it really depends on the situation.. If the batsman is batting on say 5* and you push the field back just because he has no.9 batting with him, it has no logic really.
    It has poor logic*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    It has poor logic*
    by that reasoning, Joni, every human thought is logic, either poor or sound or usual.

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