Whaddaya mean, "could be"
Whaddaya mean, "could be"
"Your averages, captain, coaches and players can probably survive incompetence over a relatively short series, so if you’re going to be rubbish, make sure it’s against Pakistan, Sri Lanka, New Zealand or someone."
I don't really understand why they haven't been out for the last hour or two, there has been no rain at all in this time, and the rain hasn't been heavy and prolonged at any stage today so i seriously doubt the ground is particularly wet underfoot. Interesting to know they are taking tea at the moment, looks like its about to pour it down.
Forecast is a bit better for tomorrow fortunately - sunny with a possibility of showers - so hopefully there'll be a full day's play or something close to it. Reckon the Lions should bat on for at least another hour, maybe even till lunch.
They'll get the runs quicker now than in the second innings, so yeah, might as well try at a lead that won't be overtaken. Would mean that Ravi & Woakes probably get a bat as well.
I don't think he has enough tools yet to be a real handful for good test batsman on good wickets. He'll continue to play though, and get hyped up by the media, because he'll gun it in the ODI's like he has for two years. He's brilliant in those.
I've been pretty skeptical of Root so far in his international career, as I'm a big believer of picking guys who make big runs, like Compton, and not guys on potential. I wasn't happy when he made his debut in each format, and because I'm a stubborn ****, I've remained skeptical for a while. But all he's done in his international career so far is prove me wrong, and his start to the season has finally converted me.
Won't make another run this season now
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Not much love for Finn around here I've noticed.
Personally I agree that right now the 3rd seamer spot is wide open and there is not much at all between Finn, Bresnan and Onions. If Bressy is fully fit and back to full pace I'd take him but purely because with him in the side we have Swann at 10 and Jimmy at 11..........strongest tail in test cricket at the moment.
But we've got to accept that Finn is the future of our bowling attack and I for one am pretty excited about him. He's a young bloke and a long way off the finished article and takes his test wickets at under 30........he's only going to get better and that average will fall.
If for eg Jimmy had kept his average below 30 pre 2007/2008 before he came of age he'd have a career ave of something like 25/26 now........ which is where I see Finn headed.
I'm very comfortable with Finn in the side, I know we will occasionally get some **** performances from him for now, but I reckon by the end of his career he'll be the highest England test wicket taker.
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Just think a lot of the criticism of Finn is a bit harsh, taken 80 wickets in 20 tests at under 30. If this is what he can offer while he is learning his trade it is not a bad return for us. If the others vying for the 3rd seamers spot were likely to do significantly better than that, then play them.
As an England fan it is nice to be even having this discussion, in past years it has been a case of who the **** can fill the role. The fact that we've got 3 or 4 perfectly capable options is a great position to be in.
Finn v Roland-Jones in first class matches they have played together. Finn gets the new ball and Roland-Jones first or second change.
323.0-79-1009-42 - Finn 24.02 econ 3.12 s/r 46.1
248.4-39-778-42 - TR-J 18.52 econ 3.12 s/r 35.5
So Tremlett's not fit yet or just not taking wickets in domestic?
I imagine England would want him back for the ashes.
Also, Broad's spot must be on the line if he has a poor series.
Not seen any of Roland-Jones but I presume he is "not quick enough" as there is this bizarre obsession with pace these days.
Just what you need when quick runs are needed. An out of form Ravi Bopara walks to the crease. Can't see him playing for anything but himself here.
TRJ is in the correct position at the moment. He had a great start to his career and had a lions callup before he was injury plagued for a couple of years. He seems fit again and taking wickets. He is back in the lions on the basis of his performances but he still has only played two seasons of first class cricket (34 fc games).
He bowls around 80mph but is tall and moves the ball off the seam rather than swinging the ball miles and is fairly metronomical. He almost certainly will play for England. But how many 80mph bowlers are succesful in international cricket? There aren't many. You need to be extremely good at what you do if you want to succeed bowling at 80mph in test cricket.
Bopara makes double figures. Give him another dozen caps!
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