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***Official*** New Zealand in England series 2013

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
So although Guptill still doesn't even nearly have a test match technique, it's remarkable how he's now able to turn over the strike all of a sudden.

I'm tempted to say that it's because of Cook's dreadful captaincy.

Either way, really enjoying the running between the wickets.
 

straw man

Hall of Fame Member
You won't need that many, or anywhere near. Which doesn't mean that you won't finish up with something close to it anyway. NZ have been way smarter at these games than England for as long as I can remember.
This is the stereotype in my mind too, probably owing from mid 2000s where we were good at ODIs and England were terrible, however England have justifiably thrashed us in a fair few recent encounters, on account of being just generally better.

Think NZ are improving from the ODI low we've hit in the last couple of years though, where it was our worst format.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Seeing how much turn swann is getting here i reckon nmac will break physics and get negative turn. Somehow.
Is that when batsmen play for turn but it goes straight on and beats them despite the bowler trying to rip it big?

I believe they call that the Jadeja these days. "Natural variation".
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
any captain with half a brain will see how to negate guptill this CT.

But well played Guppy. Good stuff.

Should see some fireworks now.
 

Stapel

International Regular
Is there a list somewhere of batsmen that got back to back 100's in ODI's? I'm just, all of a sudden, wondering how many times it has happened.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Played Guppeh.

We're going to need 350 here; it's an absolute road.
The England ODI batting lineup is a specialist beast though. I'd back them to get 270 regularly on marginally bowler-friendly decks where most teams would struggle, but I wouldn't back them to get much more than that on complete roads. They back themselves to consistently get par or just above and then back their bowlers to defend it (or - back their bowlers to restrict their opposition to below par and then comfortably chase it). They're just not anywhere near as good a team on roads as a rule.
 

hendrix

Hall of Fame Member
The England ODI batting lineup is a specialist beast though. I'd back them to get 270 regularly on marginally bowler-friendly decks where most teams would struggle, but I wouldn't back them to get much more than that on complete roads. They back themselves to consistently get par or just above and then back their bowlers to defend it (or - back their bowlers to restrict their opposition to below par and then comfortably chase it). They're just not anywhere near as good a team on roads as a rule.
Distinct lack of Suresh Raina about them, that's fair.

Having said that, Jos Buttler can hit. Far.
 

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