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  • Yes, both will average 30 - 35

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Thread: All Right Kiwis, Hand On Heart: Fulton/Rutherford - Do You Believe?

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    What we clearly need to do is somehow make teenage girls think opening batsmen are hot ****
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    Well Guptil has to try something different if he wants to make a go of test cricket.

    However I note his SR in tests is 43 so he wouldn't make for a dynamic number 5 unless he decided to adjust his approach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    Well Guptil has to try something different if he wants to make a go of test cricket.

    However I note his SR in tests is 43 so he wouldn't make for a dynamic number 5 unless he decided to adjust his approach.
    Exactly. Both points I agree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeGee View Post
    Rutherford looks like a no.5. Latham too,

    It's like ten thousand number 5s when all you need is an opener.
    It's like f*cking off your best batsman, when he just wins you a test in SL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    Well Guptil has to try something different if he wants to make a go of test cricket.

    However I note his SR in tests is 43 so he wouldn't make for a dynamic number 5 unless he decided to adjust his approach.
    Nah, Guptill knows that his best chance to make it as an international cricketer is opening. Going to number 5 isn't going to improve his chances at all because the expectations and competition rise so much. Not to mention he's the kind of guy who won't quit once he's got his mind set on something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wellAlbidarned View Post
    Nah, Guptill knows that his best chance to make it as an international cricketer is opening. Going to number 5 isn't going to improve his chances at all because the expectations and competition rise so much. Not to mention he's the kind of guy who won't quit once he's got his mind set on something.
    Like bagging McGoldrick?

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    "Marty was doing well to remain scoreless for 102 minutes there" - Broad
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    As far as im concerned Guptill can keep the **** away from test cricket. For the first time since the mid Flemming era we have a relatively stable team.

    What we do need is an opener in ODI cricket who can score runs quickly. If he can work on rotating the strike and scoring runs quickly against the swinging ball he will add so much more to the Black Caps than just being a shoddy test opener. As far as being a number 5s, Neil Broom, Daryl Mitchell and Latham are all only half a good season away from selection, and McCullum and Watling are both capable of moving up a slot to let Ronchi come in at 7.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wellAlbidarned View Post
    What we clearly need to do is somehow make teenage girls think opening batsmen are hot ****
    PEWs to spread the word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohnoitsyou View Post
    As far as im concerned Guptill can keep the **** away from test cricket. For the first time since the mid Flemming era we have a relatively stable team.

    What we do need is an opener in ODI cricket who can score runs quickly. If he can work on rotating the strike and scoring runs quickly against the swinging ball he will add so much more to the Black Caps than just being a shoddy test opener. As far as being a number 5s, Neil Broom, Daryl Mitchell and Latham are all only half a good season away from selection, and McCullum and Watling are both capable of moving up a slot to let Ronchi come in at 7.
    There's different concepts here.

    There is what is best for Martin Guptill and it was from that angle I made my post.

    And there is what is best for the NZ cricket team which is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wellAlbidarned View Post
    What we clearly need to do is somehow make teenage girls think opening batsmen are hot ****
    I was an opening batsman.

    Good luck, you've got your work cut out for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    Well Guptil has to try something different if he wants to make a go of test cricket.

    However I note his SR in tests is 43 so he wouldn't make for a dynamic number 5 unless he decided to adjust his approach.
    Was doing ok at 5 when tried there against Australia in 2010. I think he could be very good in that position. Plus, his fielding/catching is invaluable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcas0167 View Post
    Was doing ok at 5 when tried there against Australia in 2010. I think he could be very good in that position. Plus, his fielding/catching is invaluable.
    A match score of 62 is not even close to "doing ok".

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    fielding should not factor into at all unless you're replacing him with someone completely unco.

    with the young players that we have, it's more a coaching issue than anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcas0167 View Post
    Was doing ok at 5 when tried there against Australia in 2010. I think he could be very good in that position. Plus, his fielding/catching is invaluable.
    Yes - his fielding/catching is important

    At 5 he has played 3 tests - 2 50's and a big hundred. Yes, the big hundred was against Bangladesh, but it was against them when we were 158/5. I think number 5 suits him better than opening at the moment.

    Whether there is an opening there for him there is another matter.

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