View Poll Results: Greatest Bolwer of All

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  • George Lohman

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  • Syd Barnes

    5 5.95%
  • Bill O'Reilly

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  • Harold Larwood

    3 3.57%
  • Hedley Verity

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  • Ray Lindwall

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  • Fred Trueman

    1 1.19%
  • John Snow

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  • Dennis Lillee

    5 5.95%
  • Imran Khan

    2 2.38%
  • Richard Hadlee

    5 5.95%
  • Michael Holding

    0 0%
  • Malcolm Marshall

    24 28.57%
  • Wasim Akran

    3 3.57%
  • Curtly Ambrose

    3 3.57%
  • Shane Warne

    5 5.95%
  • Muttiah Muralitharan

    15 17.86%
  • Glenn Mcgrath

    8 9.52%
  • Dale Steyn

    4 4.76%
  • Other

    1 1.19%
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    This guy is an old friend of CW - he'll be gone when PEWS catches up with him so I suggest nobody risks getting infracted in the meantime
    Welcome back SobersNo1. We'd missed you and your insights in to the game.

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    Well yeah Tendy is probably better than Bradman, but Bradman was 70 years ago, if he grew up in the modern era he'd still easily be the best. Though he wasn't, can understand the argument for Tendy even though I don't agree.
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    the greatest quicks ever are 1.ambrose 2.marshall 2.walsh 4.mcgrath and 5.Garner.in that order
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    Dream Team 1870-1970 1.Hobbs 2.Hutton 3.Bradman (C) 4.Hammond 5.Miller 6.Sobers 7.Oldield(WK)8.Lindwall 9.Trueman 10.Barnes 11.O'Reilly 12th man Weekes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffboycott View Post
    the greatest quicks ever are 1.ambrose 2.marshall 2.walsh 4.mcgrath and 5.Garner.in that order
    Now I've seen it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronis View Post
    Now I've seen it all.
    That list of top 5 quicks is OK. Can't say I disagree much, or even want to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronis View Post
    Now I've seen it all.
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    That list of top 5 quicks is OK. Can't say I disagree much, or even want to.
    Courtney Walsh a better bowler than McGrath or Garner? And on equal footing with Marshall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronis View Post
    Courtney Walsh a better bowler than McGrath or Garner? And on equal footing with Marshall?
    IMO Differences in player rankings are generally determined on how much weight is given to the following categories by the person performing the ranking;

    1. 'Great'
    2. 'Best'
    3. 'Direct' Stat's like Average or Strike Rate
    4. 'Indirect' Stat's like Longevity

    Obviously if you value 'Longevity' then this will increase the 'Greatness' of Courtney Walsh. And of course, if 'Greatness' is valued more than 'Best' then Walsh will climb the rankings and appear in the Top 5.

    Personally, I prefer 'Best' and 'Direct' Stat's, but there is no right or wrong here.

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    Courtney Walsh is terribly under-appreciated. Brilliant quick bowler.

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    Walsh always did dirty work for his more illustrious colleagues. While Ambrose and Marshall bowled most of there balls up to the batsmen to get wickets, Walsh was made to intimidate batsmen by bowling persistently short at them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Migara View Post
    Walsh always did dirty work for his more illustrious colleagues. While Ambrose and Marshall bowled most of there balls up to the batsmen to get wickets, Walsh was made to intimidate batsmen by bowling persistently short at them.
    Really? That's not how I remember him, although I was a kid at the time.

    I always remember him as a very accurate off stump type bowler, bowling in to the wind while Ambrose bowled with it. Always seemed to have one of the best personalities as well. Seemed like a happy guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Really? That's not how I remember him, although I was a kid at the time.

    I always remember him as a very accurate off stump type bowler, bowling in to the wind while Ambrose bowled with it. Always seemed to have one of the best personalities as well. Seemed like a happy guy.
    Yup, could be aggressive at times but he replaced Garner for the most part as the into the wind work horse stock bowler.
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


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    Look Walsh was alright but there's a reason he lived in Ambrose's shadow. I remember a tight series in 96/97 when an injury to Ambrose gave us the break we were looking for. All of a sudden the series was busted wide open. No pressure and with Walsh leading the attack - well lets just say he looked all alone and badly out numbered. Same with Bishop.

    Walsh did the dirty work bcos he wasn't good enough to be the lead man. Can't help but feel he was made to look good associated with a group of glamour fast bowlers. Longevity is admirable but lets not parlay it into greatness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the big bambino View Post
    Look Walsh was alright but there's a reason he lived in Ambrose's shadow. I remember a tight series in 96/97 when an injury to Ambrose gave us the break we were looking for. All of a sudden the series was busted wide open. No pressure and with Walsh leading the attack - well lets just say he looked all alone and badly out numbered. Same with Bishop.

    Walsh did the dirty work bcos he wasn't good enough to be the lead man. Can't help but feel he was made to look good associated with a group of glamour fast bowlers. Longevity is admirable but lets not parlay it into greatness.
    Yes Walsh was great, not in the same league as the other gentlemen being mentioned. He did get better with age though, which was amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the big bambino View Post
    Look Walsh was alright but there's a reason he lived in Ambrose's shadow. I remember a tight series in 96/97 when an injury to Ambrose gave us the break we were looking for. All of a sudden the series was busted wide open. No pressure and with Walsh leading the attack - well lets just say he looked all alone and badly out numbered. Same with Bishop.

    Walsh did the dirty work bcos he wasn't good enough to be the lead man. Can't help but feel he was made to look good associated with a group of glamour fast bowlers. Longevity is admirable but lets not parlay it into greatness.
    I rate what you post generally, but this seems a bit OTT to me. Walsh was a great fast bowler.

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