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Thread: Pietersen vs Sangakkara

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satyanash89 View Post
    I don't know what I hate more, comparison threads or the default "I hate comparison threads, stats suck blah" post
    you probably just hate flem. it's very understandable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satyanash89 View Post
    I don't know what I hate more, comparison threads or the default "I hate comparison threads, stats suck blah" post
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    you probably just hate flem. it's very understandable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemon View Post
    you probably just hate flem. it's very understandable.
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    This comparison came up a couple of years ago actually when one bloke raised it and was thoroughly lambasted by all and sundry. Can't believe it's turned into to a legitimately big support base by now.

    Sanga ahead by a pretty ****ing ridiculous amount*, in my opinion. and before someone psuedo-strawmans me, It's not because KP doesn't average 50 that I don't consider him in Sanga's league.

    * - By which I mean, while KP is no doubt a fine batsman, I don't really see a comparison.
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    Am I missing something here? It's Sangakkara.
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    I can't help but feel that the timing of this thread is slightly disingenuous as well. Alright, those two tons may not have been the most difficult of all time and you could certainly make the case that it doesn't enhance Sangs's standing as a batsman at all, but then neither does it detract from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teja. View Post
    This comparison came up a couple of years ago actually when one bloke raised it and was thoroughly lambasted by all and sundry. Can't believe it's turned into to a legitimately big support base by now.

    Sanga ahead by a pretty ****ing ridiculous amount*, in my opinion. and before someone psuedo-strawmans me, It's not because KP doesn't average 50 that I don't consider him in Sanga's league.

    * - By which I mean, while KP is no doubt a fine batsman, I don't really see a comparison.
    Nah, it's not really a legit comparison now even. The cult of KP is always that his fans are very vocal, but the poll suggests it's fairly comfortable.

    Sanga actually kept wicket for 40 matches too, which he averaged over 15 less than his career average. He averages 68 without 'keeping. That's preety good, even with easy runs.
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    Haha holy ****, I didnt even look at the poll. From the comments just assumed KP was dominating it. Felt that after KP played that knock against India (won test innigns of the year in cricinfo awards) it was being skewed towards him. Poll is hugely in favour of Sanga.

    Not so underrated after all I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Haha holy ****, I didnt even look at the poll. From the comments just assumed KP was dominating it. Felt that after KP played that knock against India (won test innigns of the year in cricinfo awards) it was being skewed towards him. Poll is hugely in favour of Sanga.

    Not so underrated after all I guess.
    Haha yeah I was surprised after I voted too. I was actually going to make a post a bit like Teja's whinging about Sangakkara being so under-rated here but after I saw the poll results I felt like a dickhead and didn't bother.
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    Sanga averages 68 when not keeping

    Different class to KP

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    Oh gawd Jono, Soctroll and the android agreeing with I, it's a dark day for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by grecian View Post
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    Pietersen capable of playing a better innings than almost any batsman but not consistent enough to be right up there, probably.

    I'd pick Sanga for the long haul; if I knew I was getting their absolute best for the next match then it'd probably be Pietersen. Probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by social View Post
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    yep, being right isn't all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satyanash89 View Post
    That article proves nothing. All it states is that Sanga averages 47 overseas to Ponting's 45. What I said was that Ponting has a much better rounded record overseas, which he does. Sanga averages in the 30s in England, South Africa, West indies and surprisingly, India.
    Ponting has done brilliantly everywhere except India, where his early mental block against Harbhajan caused him to struggle. He averages well over 40 everywhere else.
    Interesting point of view, let's just say that I don't agree with runs above a certain amount being considered as 'good', it's not the same if a player averages 50 or 75 in a specific country. Actually, from a (team POV it would be better to have quite a few more specialized players to pick out of conditions than trying to build batsmen capable of averaging 40 everywhere, but that's not the point of this discussion.

    About Sanga's poor record in some countries, it must be also said that he always played in shortish series when abroad, which, apart from lacking time to standardize his numbers, mainly means less time to adapt and worse performances. Wasn't in the last English tour that he only tonned up in the last game? It's a factor that must be taken into account when considering overseas records for the players of certain countries.
    It's the pitch, stupid.

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