Completely different players. Barely any point comparing them really.
You can bring out an innings here and there all you want. Hughes scored 2 hundreds against Steyn and co in 1 test in RSA, Sehwag smashed Pollock and Ntini on debut in RSA, Tamim Iqbal fought fire with fire against Anderson in full cry in England....list goes on...you could bring out the odd innings for anyone....the point is Jayawardene, Sehwag and Sanga are three 3 biggest FTBD of this generation. sanga in particular relishes a no pressure situation...scoring 100s in dead rubbers or when the series cannot be won or drawn (England for example...by the time he got his 100 SL had no hope of drawing the series).......Sehwag smashed Pak in Pak even better than Sanga....means nothing as Pak tests of late have all been 700 vs 700 borefests. And sanga better than Kp gainst spin? What???? That is the most ridiculous thing I have heard. Kp toyed with murali and warne....sanga struggles against harbhajan in India....case closed.
Screw averages. Who cares if Pietersen doesn't average 50...ive considered it a stupid, arbitrary measure of greatness anyway.
Pietersen, over the last 8 years or so has played too many special, match turning innings to even count. He's taken apart McGrath, Warne, Murali, Steyn , four of the greatest bowlers of all time in awe inspiring fashion and changed the course of matches more often than any other batsman this generation. He's a lot like Waqar in the sense that he's not as consistent as others like Sanga. At his peak , Sanga, or any other batsman for that matter, would struggle to bring what he does to the team, like demolishing Steyn at Headingley, or single-handedly set up a winning position on an absolute bunsen (he had no right getting that many runs at that pace). Even in spinning conditions, Pietersen has played some absolute stunners and there's very little to choose between them. Like Waqar though, when it goes wrong for him, like it did in the UAE, it looks awful. But more often than not, he gets it right.
I adore Sanga and he's a definite ATG but he just has never quite done THAT we'll against really good bowlers in alien conditions, apart from a couple of great knocks like the Hobart epic and the recent hundred in SA. He's no Sehwag or Mahela, for certain, and is definitely a very good overseas batsman, but KP's proved it more often against far better bowlers in my opinion. Whether that makes him a better batsman or not is debatable.
I pick Pietersen, but I certainly wouldn't be outraged if someone picked Sangakkara. None of them, is "streets ahead" of the other, that's for sure
A lot of KP's 'great' innings have come on flat wickets and infact i have seen him look like a wally when faced with lateral movement in the shape of either swing or spin:
Oval 2005 vs Aus: oval is always flat as a pancake, flattest test wicket in Eng by a stretch-not to mention the guy was given about 8 second lives during that innings- could have been out many times
Adelaide 2006: Adelaide- against flattest wicket in Aus
Mohali 2008: very flat wicket again, even flintoff as declining batsmen looked in good nick on that wicket
Adelaide 2010- again, flattest wicket in Aus and batting during the best conditions- only started turing on 2nd session on day 4, by which time he got out to xavier doherty
Mumbai 2012: although indian batsmen played really badly on this track, I would attribute that to poor batting by indians and excellent left arm spin from Monty. I think track was also quite flat- not a rank turner by any means- hence indian spinners couldnt turn it in either innings
Last edited by dhillon28; 14-03-2013 at 05:07 AM.
All Time Test XI:
Openers: S.Gavaskar V.Sehwag Middle Order: V.Richards S.Tendulkar B.Lara All Rounders: G.Sobers I Khan (C) WK: A.Gilchrist Bowlers: W.Akram M.Marshall M.Muralitharan
All Time ODI XI:
WK: A.Gilchrist S.Tendulkar V.Richards R. Ponting M. Dhoni M. Bevan Allrounder: K.Dev Bowlers: W.Akram J. Garner M.Muralitharan G. McGrath
Has anyone ever considered Sangakarra and Jayawardene's average on the basis of home and away results? Has anyone ever considered Ricky Ponting's average on the basis of home and away results? If you break it down this way- you will find that Sangakarra's performance is not too different to Ponting's IIRC.
Ponting has done brilliantly everywhere except India, where his early mental block against Harbhajan caused him to struggle. He averages well over 40 everywhere else.. It's just his pathetic India record that brings his overseas average down. I'm not saying the fact that he has a better rounded record makes him better than Sanga (there are other reasons) but there you go
Note: accidentally voted for Sanga. FFS
Last edited by Satyanash89; 14-03-2013 at 07:07 AM.
I can't believe Sanga is even being compared to Pieterson.
This is why I hate comparison threads.
They both suck when compared to Ross Taylor ftr. All his test hundreds have come with at least two wickets down for under 100 on the scoreboard, and I can conclusively prove Sanga and KP both average 25 when I orient the goalposts in a certain way.
Right so Sanga has become underrated again it seems. I will note this down.
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