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    Do you agree with Ganguly??

    India 'can be number one'


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    India captain Sourav Ganguly said his side's historic Test win against Australia in Adelaide could be a stepping stone to greater things.
    "I said before that we are the second best side in the world," said Ganguly after Australia were beaten by four wickets on Tuesday.

    "But if we can win this series then we definitely can be number one."

    "This was our Test. I think we played better than them in the last three days of the Test and deserved to win."

    It was the first time in 22 years India had won a Test in Australia and only their seventh victory in the last 69 matches away from home.

    Ganguly is well aware of that fact.

    He went on: "We are almost unbeatable at home but we haven't played well overseas."

    They may not look like it from the outside but they're pretty tough characters

    Sourav Ganguly

    "We've started to play well over the last two years but we also knew we had to do something special to beat this side [Australia]."

    India seemed to have no hope of winning the match after Australia racked up a daunting first innings of 556 before reducing the tourists to 85-4.

    But they turned the match around with a 303-run partnership by vice-captain Rahul Dravid (233) and VVS Laxman to get within 33 runs of Australia before Ajit Agarkar took 6-41 to skittle the home team for 196.

    Ganguly added: "There are some characters in the side, they may not look like it from the outside but they're pretty tough characters."

    Ganguly expects the Australians to respond with some tough cricket of their own.

    "We have to lift our game, this is a four-Test series not a three-Test series," he said.

    "We know that they're going to come hard at us but also we know that we can beat them."

    India, in a similarly unlikely performance, came back from the dead to win the second Test at home two years ago before taking the series 2-1.
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    I agree that India is potentially a very good side, but I don't think they are number 2 in the world.
    Sreesanth said, "Next ball he was beaten and I said, 'is this the King Charles Lara? Who is this impostor, moving around nervously? I should have kept my mouth shut for the next ball - mind you, it was a length ball - Lara just pulled it over the church beyond the boundary! He is a true legend."


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    If you're talking about one dayers, then India has a case for calling themselves the number 2 side in the world.

    With tests, well as I said before Australia are still streets ahead of everyone else.

    But after them I think its pretty close between RSA, NZL, IND, Pak and ENG. RSA and NZ are probably 2 and 3 on current form but if India can cause another shock by winning at Melbourne or Sydney they probably deserve to be ranked higher than their official rating of six.
    Similarly if Pakistan can win the series in NZ, they should move up.

    However I do expect India to improve their official ranking over the next 2-3 years -- they've got some good bowling talent back at home which will help them win more tests overseas in thge near future.

    So, not yet Mr Ganguly but maybe so in a short while.

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    They really need to get some more consistently good pace bowlers to get to No.1
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    Interesting comments really. One should always be humble and gracious after such a victory.

    We were 4/85 at one point, and it was highly likely that the match would've finished on the fourth day. So India is lucky to come out of it.

    As for number 2, I disagree with that, we may have the Number 2 Batting Lineup in the world, but our fast bowlers are very, very poor with the exception of Zaheer Khan and sometimes Ajit Agarkar.

    Our fielding is still not up to scratch with guys like Nehra, Ganguly and Harbhajan being pathetic really. The consistency to be number one or number two isn't there yet.

    India has been doing well, but they really need to do better. If India win 17 tests in a row and start beating everybody in foreign conditions then I will say that they are the best.

    Currently I would rate India at about Number 4 really, behind Australia, South Africa and New Zealand.

    So to sum it up, I don't really agree with Sourav. He should focus on winning this series first, before saying something he might end up regretting.
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    i fully agree with ganguly.

    we have the best batting line-up and the 3rd best bowling line-up and v r the 2nd best team. once v win the series, v will surely be no.1.

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    How is it possible to be the 2nd best test side in the world without winning any series overseas for ages?
    You can win all the series you like at home, but good sides win the tough matches overseas & India have yet to do that (Yes, even in Australia despite being 1-0 up).

    I see that if NZ beat Pakistan in the test series they will move up to #2 & that would make the forthcoming series between NZ & S.A a justifiable series for the outright 2nd ranked team in test cricket.
    I think there are 2 outright teams at the moment in Aus & S.A.

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    I struggle to recall the last time NZ lost a test match..it was problably that ill-fated tour to Pakistan last year.

    Sure NZ draw alot of series, but no wonder...playing 2 match test series is a disgrace.

    Recent results: 2001 onwards
    Drew 0-0 v Australia (3 match series)
    Drew 1-1 v England (3 match series)
    Won 2-0 v Bangladesh (2 match series)
    Won 1-0 v West Indies (2 match series)
    Drew 0-0 v Sri Lanka (2 match series)
    Won 2-0 v India (2 match series)
    Drew 0-0 v India (2 match series)
    Lost 0-1 v Pakistan (2 match series, 2nd match abandoned)

    NZ can debate they could have drawn that series v Pakistan, but they got annhilated in that 1st test match so all signs were pointing to a 2-0 loss.

    Look at how many 2 match series NZ are playing..its a disgrace for a test side that has recently been ranked 3rd.
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    Are RSA really that a good a team ?

    When RSA came here in late 2001, they were billed as a side capable of genuinely competing with Australia for the world no 1 spot.
    Nothing of the sort ensued - Australia absolutely annnihlated them both here and in RSA.

    I saw them in England -- they weren't all that impressive and they subsequently lost in Pakistan to an emerging Pakistani outfit.

    Kim Hughes was correct in one sense -- NZ (with Shane Bond) are probably a more worthy no 2 than RSA.

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    Originally posted by jamesryfler
    Kim Hughes was correct in one sense -- NZ (with Shane Bond) are probably a more worthy no 2 than RSA.
    Certainly not! But it is 1:10 am here now, so I will elaborate at a less cursed hour.

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    I dunno, look what they did to the Windies (besides THAT over, of course ) especially in the 2nd Innings. I was quite impressed. I didnt see it, but the highlights were enough, haha.

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    New Zealand will have to play bloody well against South Africa..with or without Shane Bond.

    South Africa have (along with Pakistan) been our worst nightmare over the last 8 or 9 years in tests. So if NZ pull off a test series victory over South Africa it'll be some achievement.

    Right now...I still think South Africa is ahead of NZ in test matches.

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    Hey, when Bangladesh were here they were saying that it took how ever many years to actually win a test match (like Bang)... how many was it (if you can bear to say)? They have improved a tonne then!:P

    Just shows you, one day the Bangers could be up there.

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    Originally posted by amits
    i fully agree with ganguly.

    we have the best batting line-up and the 3rd best bowling line-up and v r the 2nd best team. once v win the series, v will surely be no.1.
    3rd best bowling line up?How exactly??


    I think on current form India looks stronger than the likes of RSA and NZ, though they will have to do well in overseas tours consistently (and not just in 1 series) tomove upto 2 spot!

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    But your judging India's 'current' form on just 1 match...what happened before that?
    They lost 2-0 in NZ (yes albeit on pitches that offered nothing for batting), drew a match that arguably they should have won in Ahmedabad & narrowly avoided defeat in Mohali.

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