Pre ODI ODI team

[Himannv]

I'd probably go with something like this:

01. Barry Richards
02. Frank Wooley
03. Don Bradman
04. Ted Dexter
05. Keith Miller
06. Gilbert Jessop
07. Les Ames+
08. Jack Gregory
09. Richie Benaud*
10. Fred Trueman
11. Bill O'Reilly

Tempted to throw Neil Harvey and Bert Sutcliffe in there somewhere but it's hard to say who they could replace.

[Dan]

1. Barry Richards
2. Denis Compton
3. Don Bradman
4. Clyde Walcott +
5. Keith Miller [4]
6. Frank Woolley [6]
7. Neil Harvey
8. Mike Procter [3]
9. Harold Larwood [1]
10. Bill O'Reilly [5]
11. SF Barnes [2]

12. Stan McCabe

Compton opening with Richards makes up for his less-than-stellar running between the wickets. I mean, if Watson can succeed there with his running, Compton can too. Richards is tasked with batting late into the innings while scoring quickly, while Compton has a license in the PowerPlay. Bradman is Bradman. Walcott at 4 can keep the momentum going, and the middle order of Miller and Woolley will have runs flowing and adds bowling depth. Neil Harvey at 7 plays the Bevan/Mussey style finishing role, with Procter batting at 8 showing the quality there.

Bowling wise, you have Larwood opening with Barnes - a contrasting opening pair. Then Procter and O'Reilly's unorthodoxy would prove difficult to get away, with Miller blasting batsmen out in short, sharp spells. Woolley to provide a good sixth option (and field at slip).

No Charles Macartney, and McCabe carrying the drinks pains me somewhat. Could slot either of them in for Compton, and shift Walcott to open.

[sobers no:1]

barry richards , trumper , bradman , sobers (?) , miller , procter - obvious choices

[Blakus]

I think I'll start with some national XI's before getting to the question at hand.

I'll kick off with Australia

Victor Trumper
Donald Bradman
Charlie Macartenay
Stan McCabe
Kieth Miller*
Neil Harvey
Billy Murdoch+
Jack Gregory
Alan Davidson
Ray Lindwall
Bill O'reilly

With Richie Benaud, Clem Hill, Monty Noble and Arthur Morris rounding out the touring squad

More tomorrow

[weldone]

India:
Vinoo Mankad
Vijay Merchant
Vijay Hazare
MAK Pataudi*
ML Jaisimha
Farokh Engineer+
Lala Amarnath
Subhash Gupte
Amar Singh
Erapalli Prasanna
Mohammad Nissar

[doesitmatter]

Originally Posted by weldone

India:
Vinoo Mankad
Vijay Merchant
Vijay Hazare
MAK Pataudi*
ML Jaisimha
Farokh Engineer+
Lala Amarnath
Subhash Gupte
Amar Singh
Erapalli Prasanna
Mohammad Nissar

Got to have Colonel in there..CK was know for his attacking batting..Him hitting big sixes is part of Indian cricketing folklore..

[weldone]

Originally Posted by doesitmatter

Got to have Colonel in there..CK was know for his attacking batting..Him hitting big sixes were part of Indian cricketing folklore..Somebody write an article please

Ya, I considered Nayudu in place of Lala. I just preferred to have a third pace option.

I nominate SJS for writing the article btw

Edit: Nayudu is place of Prasanna won't be very bad either IMO. Nissar+Amar Singh+Lala Amarnath+Gupte+Mankad(+Nayudu, if required) might manage the 50 overs.

[doesitmatter]

Agreed..Don't forget Vijay Hazare..he can bowl medium pace as well ..supposed to have taken Don's wicket thrice and that is something..

[Michaelf7777777]

Barry Richards
Keith Miller
Don Bradman (*)
Charlie Macartney
John R Reid
Ranjitsinhji
Mike Proctor
Denis Lindsay (+)
Ray Lindwall
Bill O'Reilly
Clarrie Grimmett

12th man: Colin Bland

[Biryani Pillow]

Glibert Jessop would surely be in there.

One of the quickest scorers of all time.

Outstanding fielder.

Decent support pace bowler.

George Hirst and Learie Constantine would have been useful too.

[Coronis]

How do you guys think great wicketkeepers, who didn't focus on their batting would have gone in ODI's? e.g Tallon, Oldfield. I mean, there would probably be quite a few more chances to be taken, with batsmen playing far more recklessly, but does that outweigh the loss of batting strength in this format?

Guess we've kinda seen this in the modern game, i.e Sri Lanka. You don't see Prasanna playing ODIs

[Burgey]

McCartney a stand out contender imo. Anyone who tells his opening partner to watch out for the first ball then smashes it back past them and tells them "Try to hit the first one back at the bowler. They don't like it, it rattles 'em" deserves a shot.

I think he made 345 in about 4 hours in a tour match once too.

[Dan]

Originally Posted by Coronis

How do you guys think great wicketkeepers, who didn't focus on their batting would have gone in ODI's? e.g Tallon, Oldfield. I mean, there would probably be quite a few more chances to be taken, with batsmen playing far more recklessly, but does that outweigh the loss of batting strength in this format?

Guess we've kinda seen this in the modern game, i.e Sri Lanka. You don't see Prasanna playing ODIs

Nah, the nature of the game means that more chances are created, so missing one behind the stumps won't be as costly as in a Test, IMO. Plus you need the batting depth. A guy like Ames or Walcott wasn't exactly in the Matthew Wade mould of not being able to wicketkeep anyway.

[watson]

Originally Posted by Burgey

McCartney a stand out contender imo. Anyone who tells his opening partner to watch out for the first ball then smashes it back past them and tells them "Try to hit the first one back at the bowler. They don't like it, it rattles 'em" deserves a shot.

I think he made 345 in about 4 hours in a tour match once too.

It's interesting that both Macartney and Woolley indicated their personal preference for opening the batting - but did so only occasionally.

So I think that I'll indulge them. Macartney and Woolley to open the batting and bring up the 100 after 15 overs as a matter of course.

[weldone]

Originally Posted by doesitmatter

Agreed..Don't forget Vijay Hazare..he can bowl medium pace as well ..supposed to have taken Don's wicket thrice and that is something..

Oops, how could I forget Hazare's bowling!!! Ya, Nayudu for Prasanna then I think..

Vinoo Mankad
Vijay Merchant
Vijay Hazare
ML Jaisimha
MAK Pataudi*
Farokh Engineer+
CK Nayudu
Lala Amarnath
Subhash Gupte
Amar Singh
Mohammad Nissar