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    OK, so I'm a sucker for stats......

    There is a need to mention three players. I can already hear the reader or two saying "So! what's new: we know that already".

    The first (amongst equals) is Tendulkar. A career which is almost the definition of consistency, not in any narrow numbers-based sense, but based on a broad definition. An RpI value exceeding 35 in almost all classifications, exceeding 40 in many classifications, no real failures (barring one: away against South Africa), tons of runs, all at an excellent strike rate. What more can one want.

    The next one is Richards. Not many runs, by today's standards, but understandable. But almost all top quality runs, a very high career RpI, an away RpI which exceeds the already high career RpI, most of the runs scored away from home and all at a wonderful strike rate. An RpI value of 47+ in the key tournament matches adds to his aura.

    The third one is Ponting. His overall numbers speak for themselves. Above-par performances in all locations and above-average against all countries. However what clinched this special inclusion is his tally of runs and RpI in the key tournament matches. These have contributed significantly to the team cause in winning three World Cups and two ICC Champions Trophies.
    Three jewels in the crown, that is all one can say.

    I can hear a few readers asking me "why not complete the batting line-up?". A valid request. So I will give you my three additional players to go with these three jewels to complete the top-6 batting line-up. Gilchrist (to open with Tendulkar), Lara (at 4/5) and Pietersen (Bevan/Hussey ???). This leaves the seventh spot for a truly great all-rounder (Shakib Al Hassan, anyone? Averages of 35+ and 28+, playing for Bangladesh).

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    Ponting and Richards for very similar reasons

    Ponting: Magnificent batsman, rose to the occasion numerous times on the biggest stage.
    The clincher is that he is imo the greatest all-round fielder in history. Brilliant slipper, great in the outfield, at point and probably affected more runouts than anyone else in history.

    Richards: Amazing strike rate and average, aatonishing for his era, inarguably one of the top 2-3 ODI batsmen ever... like Ponting, raises his game on the biggest stage and a great fielder.

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    lara 3
    richards 4

    where is de silva?

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    Ponting and Richards.


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    Richards
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    In that order I think Richards played at #3 if im not mistaken
    Cause Slifer said so.........!!!!

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    3. Zaheer Abbas
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    Viv at 3, Ponting at 4
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    Quote Originally Posted by sobers no:1 View Post
    lara 3
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    where is de silva?
    Not there coz hes kinda overrated. Very good but not great imo

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    3. Richards
    4. ponting
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satyanash89 View Post
    Not there coz hes kinda overrated. Very good but not great imo


    if anything he is probably very very under rated. His name barely ever crops up in these discussions

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    DeSilva is slightly overrated in test matches. In ODIs, he's rated about rightly IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weldone View Post
    DeSilva is slightly overrated in test matches. In ODIs, he's rated about rightly IMO.
    averaged 54 in last 40 tests
    terribly underrated .

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    Quote Originally Posted by sobers no:1 View Post
    averaged 54 in last 40 tests
    So, first 50-odd shouldn't count?

    I hate to argue against DeSilva. He was a special player. But I have problems with people claiming that he was as good as batsmen like Steve Waugh or Inzamam overall. Yes, he was great for a period, but that doesn't mean we should just ignore the first 10 years of his cricket (often because most of us didn't watch him live at that period).

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    Quote Originally Posted by weldone View Post
    So, first 50-odd shouldn't count?

    I hate to argue against DeSilva. He was a special player. But I have problems with people claiming that he was as good as batsmen like Steve Waugh or Inzamam overall. Yes, he was great for a period, but that doesn't mean we should just ignore the first 10 years of his cricket (often because most of us didn't watch him live at that period).
    inzi played for pak
    waugh played for aus

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    Quote Originally Posted by sobers no:1 View Post
    inzi played for pak
    waugh played for aus
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