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Old 24-02-2013, 06:54 AM   #451 (permalink)
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With the exception of Bradman (99.94 doesnt lie), the only way that I can pick a team is through having seen it with my own eyes

ATG Team 1st XI
01. Matthew Hayden - criminally underrated as he was a complete beast
02. Barry Richards - saw him score 200 during WSC
03. Donald Bradman - 99.94
04. Viv Richards - no way anyone could be better than this guy but 99.94 says otherwise
05. Jaques Kallis - best cricketer I have seen so sorry Sachin
06. Steve Waugh - stands alongside Bradman as the biggest prick but what a player
07.Adam Gilchrist + - sheer genius
08. Imran Khan - redefined himself, bowling and his country's cricket
09. Malcolm Marshall - true great who had everything
10. Murali - sheer weight of wickets
11. Glen Mcgrath - best bowler I have seen
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Old 24-02-2013, 07:49 AM   #452 (permalink)
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y is procter under rated compared to b.rchrds (and pollock)
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Old 24-02-2013, 07:57 AM   #453 (permalink)
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y is procter under rated compared to b.rchrds (and pollock)
IMO, there have been some great all-rounders for Procter to compete with but very few batsmen to compare with Richards or Pollock
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Old 24-02-2013, 10:37 AM   #454 (permalink)
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Nice concept social.

So guys, thoughts on my or Watson's teams. Grave omissions or inclusions?
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Old 24-02-2013, 10:54 AM   #455 (permalink)
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Nice concept social.

So guys, thoughts on my or Watson's teams. Grave omissions or inclusions?
It's really difficult to argue too strongly with any of the players as they are all "great."
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Old 24-02-2013, 11:04 AM   #456 (permalink)
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06. Steve Waugh - stands alongside Bradman as the biggest prick but what a player
Why?
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IMO, there have been some great all-rounders for Procter to compete with but very few batsmen to compare with Richards or Pollock


an allrounder in procter league is rarer than a batsman in richards class
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Old 24-02-2013, 11:10 AM   #458 (permalink)
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an allrounder in procter league is rarer than a batsman in richards class
Imran and Hadlee both compete strongly with Procter as bowling ARs.

There haven't been many (any?) opening batsmen as dominant or intimidating as B.Richards.

There are a few players to compete with Pollock though.
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Old 24-02-2013, 11:25 AM   #459 (permalink)
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Imran and Hadlee both compete strongly with Procter as bowling ARs.

There haven't been many (any?) opening batsmen as dominant or intimidating as B.Richards.

There are a few players to compete with Pollock though.
if barry is different from hobbs / gavaskar / hutton (lets frgt trumper , sehwag.. )

procter is different from hadlee / imran
a match winning batsman + ATG bowler + very good fielder
only miller can b a match ( but his wkt-match ratio is very low )
that means procter is as unique as barry

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Old 24-02-2013, 11:31 AM   #460 (permalink)
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With the exception of Bradman (99.94 doesnt lie), the only way that I can pick a team is through having seen it with my own eyes

ATG Team 1st XI
01. Matthew Hayden - criminally underrated as he was a complete beast
02. Barry Richards - saw him score 200 during WSC
03. Donald Bradman - 99.94
04. Viv Richards - no way anyone could be better than this guy but 99.94 says otherwise
05. Jaques Kallis - best cricketer I have seen so sorry Sachin
06. Steve Waugh - stands alongside Bradman as the biggest prick but what a player
07.Adam Gilchrist + - sheer genius
08. Imran Khan - redefined himself, bowling and his country's cricket
09. Malcolm Marshall - true great who had everything
10. Murali - sheer weight of wickets
11. Glen Mcgrath - best bowler I have seen
Nice. For a slightly unconventional selection (openers, Kallis over Sobers, Waugh's inclusion), this is pretty hard to put fault in.
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Old 24-02-2013, 11:49 AM   #461 (permalink)
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Why?
Was wondering as well.
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Old 24-02-2013, 11:53 AM   #462 (permalink)
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if barry is different from hobbs / gavaskar / hutton (lets frgt trumper , sehwag.. )

procter is different from hadlee / imran
a match winning batsman + ATG bowler + very good fielder
only miller can b a match ( but his wkt-match ratio is very low )
that means procter is as unique as barry
Pollock is very unique and I agree that only Miller is a true competitor for him as a total package. Top order batsman, opening quality bowler and good overall/slip fielder.
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Old 24-02-2013, 12:10 PM   #463 (permalink)
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if barry is different from hobbs / gavaskar / hutton (lets frgt trumper , sehwag.. )

procter is different from hadlee / imran
a match winning batsman + ATG bowler + very good fielder
only miller can b a match ( but his wkt-match ratio is very low )
that means procter is as unique as barry

I'm only going on what I've read/heard about Barry Richards. But seriously good judges of cricketers (I.Chappell, Benaud, Bradman, Thomson) say that he was the best (or close to the best) batsman they ever saw. A technically correct, very aggressive opening batsman.

Procter was good, no doubt.
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Old 24-02-2013, 12:17 PM   #464 (permalink)
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it is interesting to note that while Chappell, Benaud, Bradman etc are willing to put Barry Richards in their XIs not the same accolades are reserved for Procter it seems.
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Why?
As a person, long story

As a player, the guy is a great

Should've captained arguably the greatest ever team for years longer than he did and is the last person you'd ever want to see come into bat

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