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    Quote Originally Posted by sobers no:1 View Post
    grace , mynn , bradman and now this... hmm lillywhite ..
    this makes sobers the only human in top 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by sobers no:1 View Post
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    Someone really oughta tell Keanu that the mustache ain't working

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    Quote Originally Posted by sobers no:1 View Post
    50 % ??
    a batsman of 90 avg is 50% better than a batsman with avg.60
    is that ok?

    i want to know , why only bradman is clearly better than modern greats ? why not WG ?
    Largely, because of changes within the game. Thus, we can only really rank Bradman against players who played with similar rules as he did. I mean, even you can admit that its stupid to try and compare say, underarm bowlers and Brett Lee, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coronis View Post
    Largely, because of changes within the game. Thus, we can only really rank Bradman against players who played with similar rules as he did. I mean, even you can admit that its stupid to try and compare say, underarm bowlers and Brett Lee, right?
    its as stupid as comparing highly competitive modern cricketers to pre 70s cricketers


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    Quote Originally Posted by sobers no:1 View Post
    its as stupid as comparing highly competitive modern cricketers to pre 70s cricketers


    So pre 70's cricketers weren't highly competitive? Solid reasoning there, mate.
    Last edited by Coronis; 21-02-2013 at 02:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sobers no:1 View Post

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    Really? Looks like he'd be the leading man in a Jenny Craig ad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sobers no:1 View Post
    its as stupid as comparing highly competitive modern cricketers to pre 70s cricketers
    Yep. Like Sobers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by the big bambino View Post
    Really? Looks like he'd be the leading man in a Jenny Craig ad.
    aged 53 - captain of kerala strikers cricket team

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    Quote Originally Posted by sobers no:1 View Post
    aged 53 - captain of kerala strikers cricket team
    So who is he?

    Btw are you from Kerala? My wife and I know some good people from there who have settled in Australia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Jack Hobbs
    Len Hutton
    Donald Bradman *
    Viv Richards ^
    Sachin Tendulkar
    Garfield Sobers ^
    Adam Gilchrist +
    Imran Khan
    Malcolm Marshall
    Shane Warne ^
    Glen Mcgrath

    Sunil Gavaskar
    Herbert Sutcliffe
    George Headley
    Brian Lara ^
    Greg Chappell *^
    Jacques Kallis ^
    Keith Miller
    Allan Knott +
    Curtly Ambrose
    Dennis Lillee
    Muttiah Muralitharan

    Gordon Greenidge ^
    Barry Richards
    Wally Hammond ^
    Graeme Pollock
    Ricky Ponting ^
    Frank Worrell *
    Les Ames +
    Richard Hadlee
    Michael Holding
    Fred Trueman
    Bill O’Reilly

    Arthur Morris
    Bobby Simpson ^
    Kumar Sangakkara
    Everton Weekes ^
    Allan Border *
    Clyde Walcott +
    Ian Botham ^
    Ray Lindwall
    Jim Laker
    Joel Garner
    Sydney Barnes

    Victor Trumper
    Geoffrey Boycott
    Rahul Dravid ^
    Neil Harvey ^
    Javed Miandad * ^
    Aubrey Faulkner
    Mike Procter
    Alan Davidson
    Hedley Verity
    Jack Blackham +
    Allan Donald

    Graeme Gooch ^
    Matthew Hayden ^
    Rohan Kanhai ^
    Kevin Pietersen
    Steve Waugh *
    Andy Flower +
    Kapil Dev
    Wasim Akram
    Andy Roberts
    Dale Steyn
    Clarrie Grimmett

    Graeme Smith ^
    Vijay Merchant
    Ken Barrington
    Stan McCabe ^
    Clive Lloyd *^
    Charlie Macartney
    John Waite +
    Shaun Pollock
    Anil Kumble
    Harold Larwood
    Courtney Walsh

    Bruce Mitchell ^
    Virender Sehwag
    Denis Compton
    Inzamam Ul-Haq ^
    Dudley Nourse
    Tony Greig ^
    Farokh Engineer +
    Richie Benaud *
    Ian Bishop
    Waqar Younis
    John Snow

    Conrad Hunte
    Eddie Barlow ^
    Ian Chappell *^
    Ted Dexter
    Martin Crowe ^
    Shivnarine Chanderpaul
    Ian Healy +
    Wes Hall
    Alec Bedser
    Colin Croft
    Subhash Gupte

    Trevor Goddard
    Doesn't anyone else want to take a stab at constructing 9 teams?
    Aus. XI
    Simpson^ | Hayden | Bradman | Chappell^ | Ponting | Border* | Gilchrist+ | Davidson3 | Warne4^ | Lillee1 | McGrath2


    W.I. XI
    Greenidge | Hunte | Richards^ | Headley* | Lara^ | Sobers5^ | Walcott+ | Marshall1 | Ambrose2 | Holding3 | Garner4

    S.A. XI
    Richards^ | Smith*^ | Amla | Pollock | Kallis5^ | Nourse | Cameron+ | Procter3 | Steyn1 | Tayfield4 | Donald2

    Eng. XI
    Hobbs | Hutton*^ | Hammond^ | Compton | Barrington | Botham5^ | Knott | Trueman1 | Laker4 | Larwood2 | Barnes3

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    No way. Our selectors picked that many just before the 1st test against England in Brisbane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    It's William Lillywhite; by gosh he was gun. So far ahead of his peers that he earned the nickname Nonpareil. Wasim Akram was closer to Suranga Lakmal in performance than he was to this round arm slow bowler.
    But remember to basically group all of his peers together since cricket wasn't as competitive back then. If they all played now they'd all have equal success or failure, and their records would be near identical. Any abbreviations from the mean in those days is an outlier that would be chopped off if they played now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyear2 View Post
    Doesn't anyone else want to take a stab at constructing 9 teams?
    Not really, its a fair bit of work. Specially if you forget someone.

    Anyways, were we gonna do the Sri Lankan ATG thing? I can't remember if we did NZ already..

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    I might have a go later.

    I think the best way to go would be to fill individual batting positions for each of the 9 teams, rather than construct whole teams in sequence. In other words, find opening combo's for each team, then No.3s for each team, then opening bowlers for each team, and so on.
    Sunil Gavaskar – Len Hutton – Don Bradman – Garry Sobers – Viv Richards – Keith Miller – Imran Khan – Jock Cameron – Richie Benaud – Malcolm Marshall – Bill O’Reilly

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    I might have a go later.

    I think the best way to go would be to fill individual batting positions for each of the 9 teams, rather than construct whole teams in sequence. In other words, find opening combo's for each team, then No.3s for each team, then opening bowlers for each team, and so on.
    Though obviously that wasn't what he was trying to do, I do believe that is a much better way. I think this is probably one of the worst ways to go about it, if you were picking the "100 Greatest Cricketers"

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