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Old 21-02-2013, 01:34 AM   #421 (permalink)
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grace , mynn , bradman and now this... hmm lillywhite ..
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Old 21-02-2013, 01:42 AM   #422 (permalink)
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Old 21-02-2013, 01:53 AM   #423 (permalink)
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50 % ??
a batsman of 90 avg is 50% better than a batsman with avg.60
is that ok?

i want to know , why only bradman is clearly better than modern greats ? why not WG ?
Largely, because of changes within the game. Thus, we can only really rank Bradman against players who played with similar rules as he did. I mean, even you can admit that its stupid to try and compare say, underarm bowlers and Brett Lee, right?
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Largely, because of changes within the game. Thus, we can only really rank Bradman against players who played with similar rules as he did. I mean, even you can admit that its stupid to try and compare say, underarm bowlers and Brett Lee, right?
its as stupid as comparing highly competitive modern cricketers to pre 70s cricketers
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Old 21-02-2013, 02:00 AM   #425 (permalink)
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its as stupid as comparing highly competitive modern cricketers to pre 70s cricketers


So pre 70's cricketers weren't highly competitive? Solid reasoning there, mate.

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Old 21-02-2013, 03:31 AM   #426 (permalink)
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Really? Looks like he'd be the leading man in a Jenny Craig ad.
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Old 21-02-2013, 03:32 AM   #427 (permalink)
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its as stupid as comparing highly competitive modern cricketers to pre 70s cricketers
Yep. Like Sobers...
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Really? Looks like he'd be the leading man in a Jenny Craig ad.
aged 53 - captain of kerala strikers cricket team
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Old 21-02-2013, 04:54 PM   #429 (permalink)
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aged 53 - captain of kerala strikers cricket team
So who is he?

Btw are you from Kerala? My wife and I know some good people from there who have settled in Australia.

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Old 21-02-2013, 05:13 PM   #430 (permalink)
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No way. Our selectors picked that many just before the 1st test against England in Brisbane.
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Old 21-02-2013, 06:21 PM   #432 (permalink)
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It's William Lillywhite; by gosh he was gun. So far ahead of his peers that he earned the nickname Nonpareil. Wasim Akram was closer to Suranga Lakmal in performance than he was to this round arm slow bowler.
But remember to basically group all of his peers together since cricket wasn't as competitive back then. If they all played now they'd all have equal success or failure, and their records would be near identical. Any abbreviations from the mean in those days is an outlier that would be chopped off if they played now.
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Old 21-02-2013, 06:23 PM   #433 (permalink)
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Doesn't anyone else want to take a stab at constructing 9 teams?
Not really, its a fair bit of work. Specially if you forget someone.

Anyways, were we gonna do the Sri Lankan ATG thing? I can't remember if we did NZ already..
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I might have a go later.

I think the best way to go would be to fill individual batting positions for each of the 9 teams, rather than construct whole teams in sequence. In other words, find opening combo's for each team, then No.3s for each team, then opening bowlers for each team, and so on.
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I might have a go later.

I think the best way to go would be to fill individual batting positions for each of the 9 teams, rather than construct whole teams in sequence. In other words, find opening combo's for each team, then No.3s for each team, then opening bowlers for each team, and so on.
Though obviously that wasn't what he was trying to do, I do believe that is a much better way. I think this is probably one of the worst ways to go about it, if you were picking the "100 Greatest Cricketers"
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