While I do not go as far as Sobers1 and I do acknowledge that Bradman is the best batsman in the history of the great game, I do support that Headley was his cloest comtemporary and rival. Their averages againts England are comparable, especially if one excludes his matches after the war which was inadvisable at best, with Bradman having an approximate 10 run advantage. Where the significant difference in their averages comes in where as the other team that Headley faced was a strong Australia team away from home, Bradman faced only minnows and all at home. He averaged over 200 and 178 vs South Africa and India with very weak attacks. Had he had to face his own team instead of the minnows of his time and Headley got to face N.Z, India or S.A. the numbers may well have been reversed. Let me repeat that I do consider the Don to be the best, but the difference between the two are not double as some proport.
Hutton* | Hobbs | Bradman | Richards^ | Tendulkar | Sobers5^ | Gilchrist+ | Khan3 | Marshall1 | Warne4^ | McGrath2
Sutcliffe | Gavaskar* | Headley | Chappell^ | Lara^ | Kallis5^ | Knott+ | Hadlee3 | Ambrose2 | Lillee1 | Muralitharan4
Greenidge | Richards^ | Ponting^ | Pollock | Hammond^ | Worrell5* | Waite+ | Akram3 | Steyn1 | Holding2 | O'Reilly4
Morris | Simpson^ | Sangakkara | Weekes^ | Border*^ | Walcott+ | Faulkner5 | Laker4 | Trueman1 | Garner3 | Donald2
Last edited by Ikki; 15-02-2013 at 09:37 AM.
I think there'll sooner be another Bradman than another Warne. - Gidgeon Haigh
[Warne is] the greatest bowler ever produced in this entire world - Muttiah Muralidaran
[Warne is] the greatest bowler of all time - Glenn McGrath
In my opinion Shane Warne is the greatest cricketer who's ever lived - Ian Botham
Warne is the greatest cricketer to pick up a ball ever.
And is the greatest bowler I have ever laid eyes on. - Brian Lara
Here are his figures, and I put the spinner figures in case you think they hurt his figures. That he bowled pace for the majority of the 60s still can't offset that he isn't even as good as the average spinner in his time.
If we go by his peak years 61-68 where he bowled as a pacer:Code:Overall AVG SR Sobers: 34.03 91.9 World avg: 31.18 79.8 Spinner avg: 32.71 88.9
And even then, they're not that impressive for a peak. He is actually a few notches cheaper but conversely a few slower than the average pacer of his peak.Code:Peak AVG SR Sobers: 27.93 76.3 World avg: 32.84 81.9 Pacer avg: 30.80 72.6
Last edited by Ikki; 15-02-2013 at 09:38 AM.
But Ikki you are missing the point, he is the fifth bowler, he would be there to give relief and keep things tight and even sneak ot a wicket, all things he and Kallos was capable of doing. They aee not there as strike bowlers or to bowl out the side.
Last edited by Satyanash89; 15-02-2013 at 10:09 AM.
The first one yes. Because of a less than ispiring performance by our first touring team to England. They didn't make that mistake again.
at the age of 45 , hobbs averaged 50-55
add him to the list of super human batsmen (along with WG , don and headley )
But considering the match-up the proposed line-up will be up against why would you bowl him at all? I'd rather bowl 4 ATG bowlers and let them rotate than to give any overs to someone who is liable to lose the match for me in those few overs. 4 ATG bowlers average ~90-100 overs an inning anyway.
Last edited by Ikki; 15-02-2013 at 01:10 PM.
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