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    Quote Originally Posted by the big bambino View Post
    Hey Archie; you mentioned Laurie Nash earlier. Do you have any idea how his career went after his last test in '37? I've heard he played well in Melbourne grade cricket and deserved selection for the state team on form but never got picked. Can you confirm that and relay his grade stats in say 1938 and 1939?
    I am off to bed just now. But I have his bio and will do some research and post tomorrow
    You know it makes sense.

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    Cheers and thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the big bambino View Post
    Whereas SRT is McGrath's bitch and averages about 10 against him.
    Ahh yet another victim of cricinfo's average against bowler stat.

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    Nash finished playing Grade cricket in 1937/38.


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    I think one of the reason players of 20's or that era are considered great is because they ended up being pioneers in certain aspect of cricket or ended up doing things first or first professional or first greatest crowd puller in cricket...

    Is the Doc not the first highly famous professional + first guy to score the mountain of runs?
    Clem Hill..is he not the first to score 1000 runs in TC in a calendar year
    Trumper..First player to completely master bad wickets + plus swashbuckling as well..
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    Quote Originally Posted by archie mac View Post
    Why would SRT be that much higher? With Dravid having a similar average in Test cricket.

    Grace was past his best by the time Test cricket started. Murdoch was a great player the best Aussie batsman until the golden age started. There is a book called the Top 100 and first XI circa 1987 where the authors choose an all time great Aust team by comparing the % of players made against their contemporaries.

    I thought the process unfair against Bradman's peers, still was an interesting read
    Is the article only comparing batsmen, or the whole team? If you had some completely crap tailenders in your team that would drag the average down, boosting stats for the batsman in question. Also, the article first says Border should be highly rated because of how much better he did than his comparitively crap teammates. Then contradicts itself by saying Chappell is also amazing because of how good his contemporaries were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shankar View Post
    Ahh yet another victim of cricinfo's average against bowler stat.
    Irony deficiency is a problem here isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkut View Post
    Man up, learn to come up with witty comebacks instead of weeping like a girl.

    You're supposed to be hooking my short ball instead of taking the blow on your head.
    What would you know about a short ball? You're from India aren't you?

    Out of curiosity can you point out the matches and series that makes you think McCabe is better than Bradman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the big bambino View Post
    Irony deficiency is a problem here isn't it?
    The stat only shows you what a batsman averages when he gets out to a certain bowler.

    So if I bowl to you in ten innings and you absolutely flog me around the park for nine of them, making tons before getting out to other bowlers in the team, and then get out for a duck to me in the tenth innings, cricinfo will record your average against me to be 0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkut View Post
    But I'm enjoying the way I'm working you up, it's so easy!
    Stop trolling. Admitting that you're trolling as a defence for your posts is a sure fire way to get a ban.

    Quote Originally Posted by the big bambino View Post
    What would you know about a short ball? You're from India aren't you?
    And yes I know he was trolling you, but stop warmongering please.

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    Ok let me make this clear bcos the mounting flood of stupidity can't be subtlely diverted.

    I am not taking figures from cricinfo. I'm aware of its deficiencies. I am taking them from Davis and they are actual stats versus the bowler and are therefore genuine. A case deconstructing SRT can be made with them.

    Not that I would. He's a top player. But its fun to give a troll a bit of his own back. OK? Or do I have to go nudge nudge wink wink?

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    Bambino needs to take a chill pill. Kirkut is having a luagh and he is taking it seriously.

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    Yeah I think I know what he's doing. Can't I have a bit of fun too? Chill pills for everyone.

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    Isn't 'bambino' Italian for baby?

    Just delighting at the irony. Sorry, please ignore me and carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    Isn't 'bambino' Italian for baby?

    Just delighting at the irony. Sorry, please ignore me and carry on.
    It is.

    Isn't Watson considered a bit of a baby too?

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