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Old 21-03-2013, 05:14 AM   #8746 (permalink)
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Lets be honest, our tour has gone about as well as England's tour to UAE. Pakistan have the better bowling attack than , but the conditions weren't nearly as spin friendly as what we've come up against here.

It took England three consecutive series up against spin to get it right; whereas we have three players from our top 6 missing from our last subcontinental tour of eighteen months ago. It doesn't excuse the effort in this tour, but it might provide some context.
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Old 21-03-2013, 05:18 AM   #8747 (permalink)
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and we don't even have good spin bowlers
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Old 21-03-2013, 05:48 AM   #8748 (permalink)
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Cricinfo says Clarke is touch and go to play. Still if he's in that much doubt do we want to play him? The series has gone and he'd have to bat 3 days just to get us a draw. He might do some lasting damage to it then. So I'm favouring resting him and I don't care if that makes Watson captain. It'd be a joke but we've cracked plenty on this tour already. Besides it'd be even funnier if we didn't pick Watson to stand in as skip. I mean why pick him as vc in the 1st place if you don't select him when Clarke is injured. It'd make a tool of the decision to give him the vc ship in the 1st place.

So we're stuck with him; sook that he is. With Clarke out Smith and Henriques can both play though I'd prefer Usman to the latter. Watson at 4. Dear me. Without Clarke our batting is ****tier than the sides of the late 70s and mid 80s.
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Old 21-03-2013, 05:58 AM   #8749 (permalink)
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Lets be honest, our tour has gone about as well as England's tour to UAE. Pakistan have the better bowling attack than , but the conditions weren't nearly as spin friendly as what we've come up against here.

It took England three consecutive series up against spin to get it right; whereas we have three players from our top 6 missing from our last subcontinental tour of eighteen months ago. It doesn't excuse the effort in this tour, but it might provide some context.
The difference was England managed to bowl out Pakistan cheaply pretty consistently on that tour. Only the batting was a problem. Can't say that about this series so far.
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Old 21-03-2013, 06:02 AM   #8750 (permalink)
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The batting was a huge problem, though. Their middle order collectively averaged something like 10.

I mean, we've been bad, but we haven't been that bad - we've put a reasonable first innings on the board in two out of the three games, though we still haven't had a good third innings score in India since forever.
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The batting was a huge problem, though. Their middle order collectively averaged something like 10.

I mean, we've been bad, but we haven't been that bad - we've put a reasonable first innings on the board in two out of the three games, though we still haven't had a good third innings score in India since forever.
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I think we have done as well as we could have with the current set of players, can't recall when was the last time we brought so many batsmen who were in their early 20's to a place like India. To their credit apart from Maxwell every other young player has atleast a score of 50 or above to show for their toil.

Bowling especially the spin department has been the real issue, didn't expected any match winning hauls from Lyon, but even if he had bowled steadily we could have fared a lot better in this series.
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Old 21-03-2013, 08:00 AM   #8753 (permalink)
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It would be too sensible to hire Martyn.

In other news, bring back Ponting!
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Old 21-03-2013, 08:06 AM   #8754 (permalink)
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The batting was a huge problem, though. Their middle order collectively averaged something like 10.

I mean, we've been bad, but we haven't been that bad - we've put a reasonable first innings on the board in two out of the three games, though we still haven't had a good third innings score in India since forever.
Pace bowling has been disappointing IMO
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Old 21-03-2013, 08:28 AM   #8755 (permalink)
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I've seen at least 1 article saying Maxwell is a chance at a recall so that's a worry. I guess he would be in for Doherty as the 2 nd spinner? No Clarke, no Haddin and Smith, Moz and Maxwell in the line up.
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Old 21-03-2013, 09:09 AM   #8756 (permalink)
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i think i'll be watching this test from the pov of morbid fascination - anything better than an absolute hammering will be an upside from my expectations as of right now.
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So is Clarke still a selector if not fit to play?
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What would be funny would be Watto promoting himself to open because he's captain.
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The batting was a huge problem, though. Their middle order collectively averaged something like 10.

I mean, we've been bad, but we haven't been that bad - we've put a reasonable first innings on the board in two out of the three games, though we still haven't had a good third innings score in India since forever.
Your bowling has been absolute toilet though. Which isn't something that can be aimed at England on their last 3 Asian tours. And the batting's been the same old '**** the bed ajd get out out for 150-200' performance we've been seeing for ages. When India got their lead you just knew Australia would collapse and set India a meagre target.
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Yup, much more likely. In any case, I will back [Insert Indian Random Batting Order] against Swann in India every day. If they win, it won't be on Swann's back - though he could be valuable to keep things tight and maybe a wicket or two.
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What would be funny would be Watto promoting himself to open because he's captain.
Might start to bowl again too.
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