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He's just an amazingly lucky player
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***Official*** Australia in India 2012/13
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If you look at any assessment of Maxwell on here, you'll see that many have pointed out how padded his resume is plus he has done nothing for more than a year
But ironically enough Khawaja has the same glaring problem as Watson - the inability to rotate strike/relieve pressure if the bowling is decent. Cowan at least has the tools to absorb it (usually, provided he puts his ****ing cover drive away).
Twatto's been a problem since he lost his opening spot through injury - not because of his position in the order, but because he doesn't look like scoring any bloody runs. You could deal with it to an extent when he was chipping in with vital wickets (like in South Africa) and we had the lower order strength of Hussey making runs for fun, but now that he's the only other experienced batsman in the side, it is concerning.
But if you drop him, you lose that experience.
IMO George Bailey wouldn't be too bad a fix if Clarke bites the bullet and moves up the order. Domestic cricket's most Hussey-like batsman in his approach to the game.
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His bowling is rubbish, don't know the percentages but I doubt many of his wickets were from classic off spin. He always bats at like 6 or 7, I guess 5 sometimes and he has shown an ability to cash in, but I don't think he has made many hard runs. Even Steve Smith has made more harder runs.
Aus domestic cricket is quite average though and has been for a couple of years. QLD are winning everything with a mediocre batting lineup and good but not great seam attack.
Mr_Ronan
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How would England have gone in India if they lost their 2 most experienced batsmen - Cook and Pietersen - right before the series? They would have been flogged.
Well this is the scenario Australia are dealing with right now.
flibbertyjibber
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We lost our most experienced batsman before the series as Strauss retired. Don't let that fact ruin your argument though.
Mr_Ronan
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This is something I'm always wary of with State batsmen picked for Test cricket. Making runs at 6 or 7 in a very strong Shield side batting behind the likes of Rogers, Quiney, D. Hussey, McDonald and White does not compare to top order runs.
That's why even though Khawaja has only averaged 40 in the Shield this year, I'm still happy with his stats.
Because he bats in the top order, his home pitch is the Gabba (which typically offers a lot to the pace bowlers in the Shield) and his highest score for the season was on a minefield at Tasmania against a way-better-than-Test-standard Tas attack
No one else even passed 50 in that game and he cracked 138 against an attack of Bird, Butterworth, Faulkner, Doherty and the almighty Rainbird.
Maximas
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FC stats can be misleading in Australia, matches played in Tas, QLD and WA are generally low scoring and pace bowlers do well - Adelaide is also becoming lower scoring. However the MCG in particular is proving to be reasonably easy to bat on. Also, Maxwell comes in to bat at number 7, and so he has some not outs and he doesn't face the best of the bowling. His own bowling has good stats but I think a lot of his wickets come from batsman trying to slog.
The reason why it's so bad is that there are players who have done so much more than him - SOK could do a much better job as a spin-bowling all-rounder, and anyone of Steve Smith, Khawaja, Joe Burns, and many other domestic batsmen could have pressed better cases for selection.
Yeah, bringing in a new opener and a perennial search for a number 6 bat didn't stop them from winning. And in Joe Root they found the answer to that question anyway.
Plus England's spin attack is infinitely better than ours, which did kinda help them.
Mr_Ronan
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Strauss is not even in the same league as either Ponting or Hussey and had been weighing England down...his retirement actually enhanced the team not weakened it.
My point was that to claim that Australia have now begun what will be years of mediocrity is extremely premature. We've only played 1 and a bit Tests since Hussey's shock retirement so we're not just going to immediately be able to replace him and Hussey and maintain the same standards.
It's impossible to predict how our batting will look in a years time. I mean, who the hell would have predicted that Henriques would come in and bat like a maestro in both innings on debut in extremely tough circumstances? It's an unpredictable game.
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weldone
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They had Swann and Panesar. So, perhaps a Murali Vijay couldn't have absolutely dominated their spinners.
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Flibb made a completely valid point tbh. He said the batting is currently woeful, what's the point of bringing up Ponting and Hussey? Dragging England into it just because he supports them is also pretty dire.
Maximas
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Doesn't explain why crappy "utility" players (all-rounders that do nothing are called utility players apparently) keep getting picked.
If we kept the winning batting line-up from Sydney against Sri Lanka only Hussey needs replacing, and that's where Moises comes in, so no real excuse anyway I'd say.
Pup Clarke
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Gee, you're in a generous mood with that assertion.
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Only the one in Kolkata had anything in it in our series. Totally lifeless and the pacemen were flogging a dead horse. Makes you appreciate how well Pattinson bowled in the last test to get a Michelle.