***Official*** England in New Zealand series 2013

[straw man]

Doull making sense saying that Williamson best not to play T20 at the moment.

 

[Hurricane]

Doull making sense saying that Williamson best not to play T20 at the moment.

What broadcast are you listening to - on sky it is mcmillan and styris.

 

[BeeGee]

Good knock, double it, etc.

 

[Howe_zat]

Very good fifty. Composed.

 

[Mike5181]

Doull making sense saying that Williamson best not to play T20 at the moment.

Pretty sure he's been saying Williamson should drop all white ball cricket for the last year or so. Williamson was ****ing good at List A cricket before he started playing internationals as well.

 

[stumpski]

Bit of an off day for Swann - short of match practice, of course, but a bonus for NZ.

 

[vandem]

Wait - where is Baz?

Waiting until after 30th over to bat. Elliott doing the Twose job here ...

 

[hendrix]

I like Elliot lately and I think he's probably a good choice, but the thing about the horses for courses batting order is that it prevents batsmen from adding to their current skill set. Batsmen become pigeon-holed and their development is stunted.

Williamson is seen as an accumulator, and therefore will never be given the opportunity to develop his death over hitting (despite the fact that he's scored centuries at better than a run a ball and is quite capable of finding the boundary).

McCullum will forget about his once excellent accumulating abilities, and will lose his ability to play spin.

etc etc.

 

[stumpski]

One over spell from Broad and Anderson is back on - clearly Cook feels we need a wicket. We've taken one in the last 24 overs.

 

[straw man]

What broadcast are you listening to - on sky it is mcmillan and styris.

Sky Sports 1 stream (I'm in Australia)

 

[Hurricane]

Broad will want to tighten his line so that we stop running him down to third man.

 

[straw man]

I like Elliot lately and I think he's probably a good choice, but the thing about the horses for courses batting order is that it prevents batsmen from adding to their current skill set. Batsmen become pigeon-holed and their development is stunted.

Williamson is seen as an accumulator, and therefore will never be given the opportunity to develop his death over hitting (despite the fact that he's scored centuries at better than a run a ball and is quite capable of finding the boundary).

McCullum will forget about his once excellent accumulating abilities, and will lose his ability to play spin.

etc etc.

I'm a little sceptical of this way of thinking. Think we're generally better off trying to develop batsman that are really good at one role rather than moderately good at lots of things.

Anyway, Elliott and Williamson will get plenty of chances to improve their hitting skills if they stay in until the death.

 

[thierry henry]

Williamson going slower than Trott but there's a distinct absence of a barrage of criticism.

 

[straw man]

It's cos Williamson gets a free ride cos we luvs him

That and we know we're not chasing a large score.

 

[Prince EWS]

Williamson going slower than Trott but there's a distinct absence of a barrage of criticism.

I wasn't bagging Trott earlier, but to fair it's a lot different when you're chasing a moderate target than it is when you're batting first and trying to make the most of your resources. I don't reckon any of the people who bagged Trott earlier would've been complaining if they thought England only had to make 259.

 

[BeeGee]

Williamson going slower than Trott but there's a distinct absence of a barrage of criticism.

Because NZ know the total they are chasing and he's aiming for that total. If we were chasing 280 then I'd be critical.

 

[Hurricane]

Broad will want to tighten his line so that we stop running him down to third man.

Anything outside off stump and we have been in business.

Broad is starting to tighten his line now.

 

[thierry henry]

I wasn't bagging Trott earlier, but to fair it's a lot different when you're chasing a moderate target than it is when you're batting first and trying to make the most of your resources. I don't reckon any of the people who bagged Trott earlier would've been complaining if they thought England only had to make 259.

Fair point...although I'd say Trott was actually acutely aware that England rather lacked resources, if anything.

Also, not sure it's the best logic to attempt to chase a target by replicating the supposedly poor batting of the team who set said target.

Having said that...he's going well, go Kaneh

 

[Hurricane]

We havn't seen Wasp yet?

 

[thierry henry]

Because NZ know the total they are chasing and he's aiming for that total. If we were chasing 280 then I'd be critical.

Trying to achieve the target in bang on 50 overs is not ideal. Trott was criticised because supposedly he was wasting scoring opportunities, that could equally apply to Williamson...