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"Even when England lost 5-0 in 2006-07 I don't remember them folding like this. This is as bad as I have seen from an England side."
- Mick Vaughan on the 2013/14 tourists' efforts
I'm not saying that I'm pleased that Jesse isn't coming back (though I do already have a couple of ideas for Howsie's avatar), but nor do I think that people should knee-jerk in this situation. Nothing's really changed. As much as we may not like it, Jesse isn't obligated to play for New Zealand. If he doesn't feel that he's ready, (and he's almost certainly right given how rubbish his batting has been in the Plunket Shield) then he shouldn't be playing. All we can do is hope that he changes his mind in time, and be ready to provide the best environment for his talents when he does.
Would be better if Ryder comes back in June for the long term rather than rushing him back now only to go down the same road and sit out another 12 months after playing for 6 months.
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The hilarious thing about this little spat is whilst they weren't talking the Windies batsmen repeatedly edged Hadlee to Coney at slip, which made it all the more awkward. Watch both players reactions here
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There's a player in Australia called Luke Pomersbach who seems quite similar to Ryder in age, playing style, talent and off-field issues (tbf, Pomersbach's seem more serious).Originally Posted by Mike5181
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As for acting like a ****wit, I don't think you can seriously say he's done anything of the kind since he stood down from international cricket (unless you count that ridiculous sojourn in the boxing ring). As has been noted before, he's not the first international to take an indefinite timeout from the game, and he's not doing it just so that he can grab sum T20 cash (otherwise he would've ****ed off to the Big Bash this summer). He just doesn't believe he's ready for international cricket yet.
It'd be great if Ryder had the dedication and ambition of Flynn or Guptill. He doesn't, and he's still better than those two will ever be. Life's unfair, deal with it. And while it's understandable that you're disappointed that he won't be playing against England, he's decided that it's ultimately what's best for his batting in the long run.
In any case, I hope he returns to the New Zealand side later this year (the away series v Bangladesh now seems the soonest likely return).
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Unfortunately you get the feeling the work required to wean himself out of the bad habits will never quite have a pressing enough catalyst to occur. McMillan making his last test ton at 29 also had more than a hint of that depressing, lower socio girl lost it quicker due to bad maintenance feel to it.
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