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    They have Tredders in the squad, so they've probably decided it's a spare spot, and more coach-on-Root action is good.
    Every 5 years we have an election and have to decide who are the least obnoxious out of all the men. Then one gets in and they age really quickly. Which is always fun to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flametree View Post
    Ellis seems to score runs every time I check Plunket Shield scorecards, and his bowling looked respectable in the ODIs I've seen. So I wondered if he was maybe at the head of that queue (it's not that long ago that Sam Wells was in that position and look where he is now...)
    Ellis has always been a bowling allrounder and still typically bats 7 for Canterbury - imo any bowler that wants to be considered an allrounder at international level should be batting 5 or 6 for their domestic side. Perhaps he could keep it tight as 4th seamer for NZ but can't see him taking wickets or scoring runs - so someone else could surely contribute more. Plus he's 30 so it's not like we could reasonably expect him to improve much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZTailender View Post
    He's becoming the personification of that cbf cat benchy wheels out at various times.


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    Can someone sticky this thread, please?


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Feral Abacus View Post
    Another exaggerated personality stereotype conspiracy brought to you by Kippax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kippax View Post
    Well, that's that. I guess the next tour he might consider playing would be at home against Windies next season.

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    Good for ronchi presumably. Though baz moving to the middle order ****s things up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kippax View Post
    Outside watching him bat, he's such an unlikeable guy. Losing weight and not playing like a ****wit in the Plunket Shield obviously weren't on his list of things to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Good for ronchi presumably. Though baz moving to the middle order ****s things up.
    If Guptill continues to be in no form at all, and McCullum is definitely going to bat at 5... who the hell will the selectors pick to open??????????????

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    They'll look to flynn and fulton imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flametree View Post
    If Guptill continues to be in no form at all, and McCullum is definitely going to bat at 5... who the hell will the selectors pick to open??????????????
    Most probably two of Fulton/Flynn/Rutherford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kippax View Post
    I saw that video that I think you posted the other day, where it had him playing and talking over the top in an interview, and he looked like trash. Has he regressed a very big amount? Looked absolute village and it was a surprise to see him get bowled. If he's going to play like that at international level he's not missed.

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    So as for our other is-he-available/is-he-not player, first test starts March 6. Vettori would need to play at least two, preferably three FC matches for Northern Districts before he could be considered fit imo (there's also the England vs NZ XI warmup match starting Feb 27). So he needs to play in the match starting 7 Feb vs Canterbury, or at the latest in the match starting 14 Feb vs Wellington. That's pretty soon.

    Considering there' hasn't been much heard from Vettori about this, it's looking quite unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    I saw that video that I think you posted the other day, where it had him playing and talking over the top in an interview, and he looked like trash. Has he regressed a very big amount? Looked absolute village and it was a surprise to see him get bowled. If he's going to play like that at international level he's not missed.
    He cbf at lower levels. Just goes for it. He's never been the biggest mover of his feet but when he was playing test cricket semi-regularly he displayed patience, stillness and kept his head.

    Jesse Ryder 200 against India - YouTube

    Probably a ppoor example since it only has the boundaries but its the only footage I can find and he isn't doing any of the backing away and wafting he's doing atm.

    He's screwed if he brings his current attitude to international level.
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