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    Deserved spot for Woakes I must admit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theegyptian View Post
    England almost exactly followed my guidance.

    Test
    Woakes in for Bresnan. All else as expected

    ODI
    Harris in for Meaker and Dernbach
    No Kieswetter
    Root in

    Lions
    Clarke and Jamie Overton in.

    Happy with those squads.
    Yeah, all good news. Really need some fresh faces in the ODI squad, and Root has established himself as an England player this winter. Buttler looks like he'll finally get a run in his best form. Did nowt wrong with the gloves yesterday, and does look a natural 'keeper, not just makeshift.

    Bres is no use to us whatsoever bowling at this pace, if they can sort it great, if not goodbye.

    Not sure about woakes, but I guess on his domestic record he deserves this.

    Oh and Rikki Clarke, does deserve recognition of a sort, I suppose.
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    If any foreign conditions are going to suit Woakes it'd surely be NZ's.

    Still don't think he's got the equipment to trouble test batsmen on anything but the most helpful surfaces but, as with Morgan's elevation to the test side, he's earned the right to fail.

    XI chooses itself, pretty much, doesn't it?

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    Harsh on Monty, but two specialist twirlers (especially with Root and Pieteresn in the side) looks excessive if conditions are as expected.
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    England promote Joe Root to full squad for New Zealand series | Sport | The Guardian
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    Lions squad is 18 but with only one wicketkeeper (Foakes) and a lot of fast bowlers.

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    The T20 squad is still pretty dire, and there's no KP in the ODI side for some reason, presumably informed player management of some form

    No Bopara anywhere seems a bit blunt

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    Good to see Bresnan finally get dropped, about 8 months too late. He has to go back to Yorkshire and prove he is fit and firing again. Pleased for Woakes, doubt he'll play but he deserves the chance to be in the squad at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theegyptian View Post
    England almost exactly followed my guidance.

    Test
    Woakes in for Bresnan. All else as expected

    ODI
    Harris in for Meaker and Dernbach
    No Kieswetter
    Root in

    Lions
    Clarke and Jamie Overton in.

    Happy with those squads.
    btw it's Craig Overton who has been called up

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    Dunno, they both look like typical North Devon Neanderthals to me.

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    One has to wonder why Bresnan was commanding a place in the all forms of the game if Miller, the chairman of selectors, knew he was struggling all along? Especially when a guy like Onions has just come off the season he has.
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    And Ben Foakes in the Lions squad? I know that in essence some players are earmarked because of their potential, with him showing that at U19 level for his country, but they've overlooked some alternatives who may feel they have a case (Davies, Ambrose and even Foster spring to mind).

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    Quote Originally Posted by grecian View Post
    btw it's Craig Overton who has been called up
    **** me. my bad.

    interesting. From what I;ve seen and read, Jamie is the out and out quick bowler with possibly a few fitness problems and a bit of a lower order slogger with the bat. And Craig is more the allrounder type who is a correct batsman and more medium paced bowler with good variations.

    Both have been with the young bowlers squad this winter at Loughborough. That list included (J Overton, C Overton, Mills, Topley, Willey, Matt Dunn(surrey), Tom Helm(middlesex).

    What is interesting is that Clarke and Overton are both genuine allrounders - and that's an area where england are short on at present. If Clarke does well there is a spot available at 6 or 7 in english conditions over Samit as the 5th bowler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pup Clarke View Post
    And Ben Foakes in the Lions squad? I know that in essence some players are earmarked because of their potential, with him showing that at U19 level for his country, but they've overlooked some alternatives who may feel they have a case (Davies, Ambrose and even Foster spring to mind).
    I don't think Foakes is next in line but they obviously rate him. Davies' chance will come again but he had a poor season and England are aware of what he can do. Ambrose and Foster are better players than Foakes but they have no chance of playing for England again( well foster has an outside chance but ambrose has nothing imo) so there is no point.



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