Virtually every batsman NZ picks will look out of their depth. Ronchi has international experience and wasn't out of his depth. He plays properly, not your typical NZ blocker/slogger/both with blatant weaknesses. He scored centuries in a low-ish scoring game against the strongest bowling attack in domestic cricket. He has a history of being at least decent and you'd hope he's matured and reaching his peak.
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He's always been an inconsistent player and a terrible starter so I think he could still go okay at Test level despite those baron periods - I don't think it's the quality of the bowling that's really going to be his downfall as such so if he's in form now he's worth a punt - but the fact that he'd been so ordinary for so long in the Sheffield Shield does cast doubts over whether his recent form is just a product of playing in a lower standard competition.
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If he's competing for 5/6/7 then yeah he's going to have to do a bit more than that. Still reckon we should shove him into opening [/goodthingI'mnotaselector]
Exit pursuing a beerOriginally Posted by Jimmy Neesham
So how do we all feel about going back to Vettori + three quicks if it happens? After SA I think it's likely provided Dan the Man is fit.
He's a self admitted dasher who doesn't do the whole blocking or leaving thing, and his performances to date back that up. He plays cricket shots but he's still a dasher/biffer/whichever slang you want to use.
We've been over this before. IMO he doesn't fit in the side unless he or Watling open (and I really don't think Watling will make it as an opener based on previous) due to the way he plays. I rank him about 8th or 9th in the top batsmen in the country and because practically all of the players ahead of him bat 4-8 he needs to either keep belting it, show a new hand and get Wellington a draw, or he needs to take on a new role in the batting order if he wants to make the side. This isn't me being icky over his nationality, this is me trying to fit the best players in the country on one team sheet. If you're going to debate it though, at least check your facts.
And ftr Ronchi wouldn't be the worst punt we've made on a middle order -> opener conversion. A high 20s average with lots of quick 50s would be a massive bonus on what we have now.
3 quicks plus Dan is such a proven recipie for mediocrity. Southee, Boult, Bracewell, Mitch + Dan would be gun.
Watling and Brownlie hitting runs along with Ryder's apparent return actually gives the team some middle order bats worth picking too, so I'm okay with it I guess.
Hesson and co. have already indicated he probably won't be playing vs England but will include him in the tour match to see where he's at. I imagine he'll become the number 1 middle order reserve bat & backup keeper should anything happen to anyone else. He's not going to open, so if he was going to play in England he'd have to rely on one of Williamson, Brownlie, Watling or Taylor getting dropped, being injured or not taking part in that series (McCullum untouchable as captain). I think he's a better middle order option than Flynn (and Flynn should be made to open perhaps given our lack of anyone for that role if he was to keep playing). If you were to throw Ryder into the mix for the middle order the headache is larger...
But yeah, when you have guys like Flynn and Munro knocking about, I think Ronchi deserves to be there just as much as those guys.
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Sodhi taking a storm of wickets @ 25 in the back half of the season would put the cat among the pigeons, since it would be tempting to get him in the squad to play against batsmen who are good against wrist spin. Sodhi Can Bat too.
There is a whole world of difference between Ronchi and guys like Nicol. Who can't score significant runs against a half-decent attack without slogging. Then you have guys who can bat, but also slog a fair bit at times - see Ryder and Taylor.
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