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    Kalis was out; no issues from me.

    An appeal covers all methods of dismissal.
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    The most ridiculous thing about the whole process is the lack of clear communication between the upstairs umpire and the on field umpire.

    He should have communicated this to the on field umpire and since it was a marginal call, asked him if he wanted to keep his original decision or change it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    He should have communicated this to the on field umpire and since it was a marginal call, asked him if he wanted to keep his original decision or change it.
    Agree 500%. I think that is what happened, tbh. If it wasn't, I think it was the wrong decision. Only if the umpire was willing to give him out LBW was it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garson007 View Post
    Agree 500%. I think that is what happened, tbh. If it wasn't, I think it was the wrong decision. Only if the umpire was willing to give him out LBW was it out.
    If I was the infield umpire now, and anyone asks me what was your intention, I would just say yep it was LBW. I would never admit a mistake.


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    Well the SA team management is happy with the explanation for the kallis dismissal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    People don't understand the chucking rule.

    kykweer.proteas, a bent arm doesn't mean he is chucking!!!!

    He is chucking if he straightens that bent arm by more than 15%
    . Now if you have an implant inserted in your brain that detects an arm being straightened by more than 15% let me know where I can get one for myself, otherwise check online that the ICC have used their own technology to monitor his bowling from real time match practise as well as seperate tests and have found him to be legal and within the 15% rule.
    Hoisted by his own petard.

    It's 15 degrees not 15 percent.

    Meanwhile I'd like to get a Thierry Henry ruling on Irfan's height. There's no way he's 7' 1". Doesn't look as tall as Tremlett, even.
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    he does look very tall. AFridi and Gul about 6ft and 6ft+ and he seems head and shoulders above them






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    He's obviously very tall, but Tremlett (6' 8" by repute) similarly towers over his teammates:


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    A great day for Ajmal....disappointed to see umpire **** ups making DRS look bad....

    For the Chucking debate on Ajmal...seriously ppl get a life....the guy doesn't go past 8 degrees on straightening his arm as per the checks ICC did on him....just learn to give credit where due...

    As far as Kallis dismissal goes..clear **** up on umpires part....but I still don't understand how did everyone know that umpire on field did not give out on lbw? when an appeal is made its made on all accounts....you don't make separate appeals for separate incidents in the same delivery...so the "umpires call" remained out in the end for LBW as well...didn't it?
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    fair point.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    He's obviously very tall, but Tremlett (6' 8" by repute) similarly towers over his teammates:

    team mates too short ...make him look tall

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    It really makes fantastic viewing when Ajmal is in full flow, you could just tell he was in the mood today right from the start as the SA batsmen were all over the place against him, and when Ajmal smells blood there's not many batters who can stem that wave,

    I did think when they got above 300 that they'd be in with a chance, the only worry is Ajmal can't do it all on his own, the others will need to chip in aswell, i also think this game exposes once again SA's lack of a good spinner and their vulnerability against spin too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Hoisted by his own petard.

    It's 15 degrees not 15 percent.

    Meanwhile I'd like to get a Thierry Henry ruling on Irfan's height. There's no way he's 7' 1". Doesn't look as tall as Tremlett, even.
    Oops, yeah my bad Brumbs, was in a hurry so put the wrong measurement. And I copied and pasted into the other thread LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faisal1985 View Post
    As far as Kallis dismissal goes..clear **** up on umpires part....but I still don't understand how did everyone know that umpire on field did not give out on lbw? when an appeal is made its made on all accounts....you don't make separate appeals for separate incidents in the same delivery...so the "umpires call" remained out in the end for LBW as well...didn't it?
    Yeah, this.

    I think the right call was made on the Kallis dismissal. As long as there's communication between the umpires, it's fair.

    With some of those calls, the umpire's chain of thought may be "well, if he didn't edge that I'm going to give it out LBW."



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