Left-arm Chinaman bowlers!!..can they make it at test level?

[cnerd123]

Minus the control.

but usually with more revs on the ball and a googly

 

[Spikey]

given there's like one good left arm wrist spinner a decade, there doesn't seem to be much reason to keep using the term.

 

[Gnske]

Can we get some Chinese posters in here stat?

 

[cnerd123]

Can we get some Chinese posters in here stat?

Chewie has already posted here

 

[Shady Slim]

don't you just love a sport where your chinaman needing to rely on his googly and his revs to avoid being clouted out to his deep square leg makes complete and total sense

 

[cnerd123]

don't you just love a sport where your chinaman needing to rely on his googly and his revs to avoid being clouted out to his deep square leg makes complete and total sense

It's also one where as a seamer you need a short leg in for your bouncer but that's why you double bluff and go for the yorker and hope to get the batsman out leg before wicket.

And one where your nightwatchman could reverse sweep a doosra into the hands of gully and you'd be really pissed at him for doing that

 

[Dan]

...or where this guy has a genuine claim on greatest bowler ever:

What. A. Sport.

 

[Dan]

But yeah I see no reason not to retire the 'Chinaman' tag. Means nothing, (potentially) racially insensitive, probably based on a myth, adds jargon, overcomplicates an otherwise functional system of bowler classification etc.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

What is everyone's opinion on 'French cut'? Should it be banned too?

 

[cnerd123]

What is everyone's opinion on 'French cut'? Should it be banned too?

Called Chinese cut too ftr

 

[Burgey]

You might be right. I can't keep up with what's ok and what isn't any more. Figure if I can try to stop myself being a **** to people IRL most of the time it's better off to not sweat the small stuff.

You make up for it on here

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Called Chinese cut too ftr

That's true

 

[Fuller Pilch]

I remember they tried to rename Eskimo lollies (sweets/candies) and Eskimo Pie ice creams but that hasn't happened yet.

 

[karan316]

but usually with more revs on the ball and a googly

Yap, only problem is that the right handers can murder them if they start picking the googly. Pretty excited for Kuldeep though, his stock delivery is top notch.

 

[Howe_zat]

PADLR 'paddler' Sandakan has taken a few against Bangladesh and is making his way into the top 10 of all time. Sucks to be you, mid 2000s West Indian Dave Mohammed.

Test wickets

1. Paul Adams 134
2. Johnny Wardle 102
3. Chuck Fleetwood-Smith 42
4. Inshan Ali 34
4. Lindsay Kline 34
6. Michael Bevan 29
7. Denis Compton 25
8. Simon Katich 21
9. Brad Hogg 17
9. Johnny Martin 17
11. Lakshan Sandakan 15
12. Dave Mohammed 13

All international wickets

1. Brad Hogg 180
2. Paul Adams 163
3. Johnny Wardle 102
4. Michael Bevan 65
5. Chuck Fleetwood-Smith 42
6. Inshan Ali 34
6. Lindsay Kline 34
8. Lakshan Sandakan 26
9. Denis Compton 25
10. Dave Mohammed 23
11. Simon Katich 21
12. Michael Rippon 20

 

[cnerd123]

Rippon is gun, caused the HK sides lots of problems in the recent tour.

 

[Shri]

HK

Take a hint. No one cares.

 

[AndrewB]

PADLR 'paddler' Sandakan has taken a few against Bangladesh and is making his way into the top 10 of all time. Sucks to be you, mid 2000s West Indian Dave Mohammed.

Test wickets

1. Paul Adams 134
2. Johnny Wardle 102
3. Chuck Fleetwood-Smith 42
4. Inshan Ali 34
4. Lindsay Kline 34
6. Michael Bevan 29
7. Denis Compton 25
8. Simon Katich 21
9. Brad Hogg 17
9. Johnny Martin 17
11. Lakshan Sandakan 15
12. Dave Mohammed 13

All international wickets

1. Brad Hogg 180
2. Paul Adams 163
3. Johnny Wardle 102
4. Michael Bevan 65
5. Chuck Fleetwood-Smith 42
6. Inshan Ali 34
6. Lindsay Kline 34
8. Lakshan Sandakan 26
9. Denis Compton 25
10. Dave Mohammed 23
11. Simon Katich 21
12. Michael Rippon 20

Didn't Wardle bowl orthodox SLA more than wrist-spin?

On which subject, Steve O'Keefe is already the 4th most prolific Australian SLA bowler of all time (behind Ray Bright, Charles Macartney and AB).

 

[CricAddict]

PADLR 'paddler' Sandakan has taken a few against Bangladesh and is making his way into the top 10 of all time. Sucks to be you, mid 2000s West Indian Dave Mohammed.

Test wickets

1. Paul Adams 134
2. Johnny Wardle 102
3. Chuck Fleetwood-Smith 42
4. Inshan Ali 34
4. Lindsay Kline 34
6. Michael Bevan 29
7. Denis Compton 25
8. Simon Katich 21
9. Brad Hogg 17
9. Johnny Martin 17
11. Lakshan Sandakan 15
12. Dave Mohammed 13

All international wickets

1. Brad Hogg 180
2. Paul Adams 163
3. Johnny Wardle 102
4. Michael Bevan 65
5. Chuck Fleetwood-Smith 42
6. Inshan Ali 34
6. Lindsay Kline 34
8. Lakshan Sandakan 26
9. Denis Compton 25
10. Dave Mohammed 23
11. Simon Katich 21
12. Michael Rippon 20

This is one list where a good bowler can quickly top the list in the current rich world of cricket statistics.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

I know he bowled medium pacers and SLA (orthodox) too, but Sobers also bowled Chinaman deliveries.

Does anyone have stats on how many the great man took with those deliveries?